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    Just observations from the speech:

    Obama is trying to sell his plan, salesmen tend to exaggerate to secure a sale.. he exaggerated on some things.

    On his plan - The plan doesn't go far enough. A public option is a band aid fix and his statement that only 5% of the currently insured will make the switch is BS. People will be dropping coverage to get on this plan and the plan should be prepared for that. As such an "option" doesn't plan for the major shift. The public option should be comprehensive, forget partisanship, forget insurance companies and what they need. It is a start but certainly not a solution.

    Republicans - Classless, that is all I can say. This is certainly not the Republican party that Lincoln founded. Furthermore they havent offered a better plan that would make healthcare affordable and accessible to all americans.

    Ultimately yes, I support the plan because it is better than the status quo. As it is right now we spend more on healthcare proportionately than any other country, while other countries spend less while offering healthcare to all of their citizens.

    edit: Also it seemed like Obama appealed more to emotion rather than rationale, which sucks because I feel there are some valid arguments for Universal Healthcare. He touched on them but did not emphasize them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Those exaggerations would be the cost and quality right?



    Plan goes WAY too far. We all know he wants true socialism, but he is a realist and knows he cant get it. So he will simply set the stage for the takeover.

    I will bet you cant name a single thing, other than tort reform that will never pass, that he mention that will lower costs. He did mention alot of things that will raise the price of private insurance though. I guess you missed that part. Watch the first 2/3 of his speech again.




    Classless because they called him out on a lie? Who was the one that called him out? The TV never panned over there.

    Actually republicans have offered plans. You havent heard of them because MSNBC has failed to report on them.



    We know you will support it, Obama said it after all. We spend more because we have the best coverage. If you only want to spend as much as a used escort, why should you expect to get a new bimmer? 25% more likely to survive colon cancer and 40% more likely to survive breast cancer than any other country says alot.



    He only has emotion to stand on. When put up to the smell test, his plan doesnt pass. This is exactly why he is trying to ram it down as quickly as possible. He also made sure it didnt take effect until AFTER the 2012 elections. probably because he knows the doom it will cause.
    BOOOOOO. :thumbsdown: You did 2 posts and a response! Do over.
    Val for president!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy View Post
    BOOOOOO. :thumbsdown: You did 2 posts and a response! Do over.


    Before you posted this I did 1 post and 1 response. Didnt know it was against the rules.

    No I have 1 post and 3 responses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Before you posted this I did 1 post and 1 response. Didnt know it was against the rules.

    No I have 1 post and 3 responses.
    "Even though this is IA please just your one post will suffice."
    Rules:
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    I'm just kidding around anyways. I thought it might be cool if it actually worked though and everyone was just able to get their thoughts out without combat and in one post so you had to think it out and not be swayed by others posts. But it's cool. I ain't hatin'.
    Val for president!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy View Post
    "Even though this is IA please just your one post will suffice."
    Rules:
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    I'm just kidding around anyways. I thought it might be cool if it actually worked though and everyone was just able to get their thoughts out without combat and in one post so you had to think it out and not be swayed by others posts. But it's cool. I ain't hatin'.

    Sorry, I didnt read the directions. I will gladly delete my posts if you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Sorry, I didnt read the directions. I will gladly delete my posts if you like.
    I was really not being serious.
    Val for president!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Sorry, I didnt read the directions. I will gladly delete my posts if you like.
    Please do.


    Shits real out here. You betta keep a strap and learn somethin'
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