This is complete BS

[BanginJimmy]

Obama's justice department drops charges against Bl;ack Panthers who intimidate white voters in Philly. This proves to me that Obama is a racist, I mean, why else would this case be dropped? The case was actually already won and over with and Justice was about to hand out the civil sanctions. Yet the case is dropped with no reasons given by the new transparent regime in Washington.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elec...dropped-obama/

Or for those that denounce anything from Fox. How about the Washington Times?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...cube_position1

[TIGERJC]

yep obama is racist

[ahabion]

Are you kidding?! He can't be racist... he's Black... (sarcasm)

[preferredduck]

just like this story never made it out of ohio and nothing has been done about it at all. no leads, arrests, suspects, anything.

http://www.ohio.com/news/50172282.html

Akron police say they aren't ready to call it a hate crime or a gang initiation.

But to Marty Marshall, his wife and two kids, it seems pretty clear.

It came after a family night of celebrating America and freedom with a fireworks show at Firestone Stadium. Marshall, his family and two friends were gathered outside a friend's home in South Akron.

Out of nowhere, the six were attacked by dozens of teenage boys, who shouted ''This is our world'' and ''This is a black world'' as they confronted Marshall and his family.

The Marshalls, who are white, say the crowd of teens who attacked them and two friends June 27 on Girard Street numbered close to 50. The teens were all black.

''This was almost like being a terrorist act,'' Marshall said. ''And we allow this to go on in our neighborhoods?''

They said it started when one teen, without any words or warning, blindsided and assaulted Marshall's friend as he stood outside with the others.

When Marshall, 39, jumped in, he found himself being attacked by the growing group of teens.

His daughter, Rachel, 15, who weighs about 90 pounds, tried to come to his rescue. The teens pushed her to the ground.

His wife, Yvonne, pushed their son, Donald, 14, into bushes to keep him protected.

''My thing is,'' Marshall said, ''I didn't want this, but I was in fear for my wife, my kids and my friends. I felt I had to stay out there to protect them, because those guys were just jumping, swinging fists and everything.

''I'm lucky. They didn't break my ribs or bruise my ribs. I thank God, they concentrated on my thick head because I do have one. They were trying to take my head off my spine, basically.''

After several minutes of punches and kicks, the attack ended and the group ran off. The Marshalls' two adult male friends were not seriously hurt.

''I don't think I thought at that moment when I tried to jump in,'' Rachel Marshall said. ''But when I was laying on the ground, I was just scared.''

Marshall was the most seriously injured. He suffered a concussion and multiple bruises to his head and eye. He said he spent five nights in the critical care unit at Akron General Medical Center.

The construction worker said he now fears for his family's safety, and the thousands of dollars in medical bills he faces without insurance.

''I knew I was going to get beat, but not as bad as I did,'' Marshall said. ''But I did it to protect my family. I didn't have a choice. There was no need for this. We should be all getting along. But to me, it seems to be racist.''

Akron police are investigating. Right now, the case is not being classified as a racial hate crime. There were no other reports of victims assaulted by the group that night.

The department's gang unit is involved in the investigation, police said.

''We don't know if it's a known gang, or just a group of kids,'' police Lt. Rick Edwards said.

The Marshalls say they fear retaliation at home or when they go outside. They are considering arming themselves, but they're concerned about the possible problems that come with guns.

For now, they are hoping police can bring them suspects. They believe they can identify several of the attackers.

''This makes you think about your freedom,'' Marshall said. ''In all reality, where is your freedom when you have this going on?''

[BanginJimmy]

How many threads do you plan on posting that in? Obama has no need to be involved in local cases and he needs to stay out of it. Just like he should have with Gates.

[tony]

lol Washington Times is no different than Fox. I'll have to read up before commenting.

[David88vert]

Don't read it. Watch the video. They committed a crime when they brandished weapons. If the nightsticks had been in holders, they would probably be within the law; however, this is pretty clear cut.
Had this been a couple of KKK members in paramilitary gear while bandishing nightsticks, they would have been sent to prison for a hate crime.

[BanginJimmy]

Don't read it. Watch the video. They committed a crime when they brandished weapons. If the nightsticks had been in holders, they would probably be within the law; however, this is pretty clear cut.
Had this been a couple of KKK members in paramilitary gear while bandishing nightsticks, they would have been sent to prison for a hate crime.

I agree completely. When you add this to Wright and Gates it starts to paint an ugly picture.

[Vteckidd]

Don't read it. Watch the video. They committed a crime when they brandished weapons. If the nightsticks had been in holders, they would probably be within the law; however, this is pretty clear cut.
Had this been a couple of KKK members in paramilitary gear while bandishing nightsticks, they would have been sent to prison for a hate crime.

+1

I saw this live the day of the election. Since when did we condone intimidation tactics?

[jorgen]

One the one had... I think from that video this must be a joke. Walk in, Vote, done.
Guy aint doin shit. Had he beat someone or made a threat, then this would have been a case.

On the other hand, this guy has a really good point...
"Had this been a couple of KKK members in paramilitary gear while bandishing nightsticks, they would have been sent to prison for a hate crime."

[BanginJimmy]

One the one had... I think from that video this must be a joke. Walk in, Vote, done.
Guy aint doin shit. Had he beat someone or made a threat, then this would have been a case.

On the other hand, this guy has a really good point...
"Had this been a couple of KKK members in paramilitary gear while bandishing nightsticks, they would have been sent to prison for a hate crime."

You don't think walking around a polling place brandishing a weapon is serious? What planet are you from?

[AirMax95]

yep obama is racist

Yeah, for that matter, I am too

When people understand the intricacies of racism.....never mind, lost cause on this board. How does this prove Obama is racist?

Anyway, I have been looking for more on the case. The news reports don't tell the "why".

Also, not to justify the said actions, KKK rallies have been doing this for years, and still do. Nothing new in my book. Like I have said before, radicals cancel themselves out eventually.

[BanginJimmy]

One the one had... I think from that video this must be a joke. Walk in, Vote, done.
Guy aint doin shit. Had he beat someone or made a threat, then this would have been a case.

On the other hand, this guy has a really good point...
"Had this been a couple of KKK members in paramilitary gear while bandishing nightsticks, they would have been sent to prison for a hate crime."

You don't think walking around a polling place brandishing a weapon is serious? What planet are you from?

[David88vert]

I agree completely. When you add this to Wright and Gates it starts to paint an ugly picture.

I am not saying that Obama is racist, just that those actions are pretty clear, so they should investigate WHY these Black Pather members were let off the hook for a clear violation of legal statutes.

[BanginJimmy]

Yeah, for that matter, I am too

When people understand the intricacies of racism.....never mind, lost cause on this board. How does this prove Obama is racist?

You think some 3rd tier political appointee made that decision himself? If you do, I have been giving you FAR too much credit.

Would Obama, or anyone else in the Justice Dept, throw this case out of it was Skinheads in their costumes? I can assure you the answer is a resounding "no". Then you add the rhetoric of Obama's friends Wright and Gates, along with the mentalities of his wife and it paints a pretty clear picture to anyone not blinded with awe at his very name.

Anyway, I have been looking for more on the case. The news reports don't tell the "why".

That would be because no one will even admit who gave the order. How are you liking the new transparency in this administration?

Also, not to justify the said actions, KKK rallies have been doing this for years, and still do. Nothing new in my book. Like I have said before, radicals cancel themselves out eventually.

Please show me a case within the last 25 years of a KKK rally at a polling place during a federal election.

[LizBiz]

Maybe we need a "Race" section....I swear nothing in the "politics" section is about politics. *shakes head*

[TSiFTW]

Maybe we need a "Race" section....I swear nothing in the "politics" section is about politics. *shakes head*

When Race involves politics, it is relevant. They are not saying your white I'm black yada yada. This is about a blatant disrespect for the law that states no campaining outside the poll locations during elections. It is the same as campaining in my book since violence was threatened and no action was taken. That tells me he condoned the action. Once again Obama thinks he can just override the law. What a joke he is. One day you left wing nutswingers will see the light as many already have. Hope it is not to late for you when you do.

[TSiFTW]

Maybe we need a "Race" section....I swear nothing in the "politics" section is about politics. *shakes head*

Not saying you are a leftwing nutswinger. I was just sayin in general.

[zspeed24]

When Race involves politics, it is relevant. They are not saying your white I'm black yada yada. This is about a blatant disrespect for the law that states no campaining outside the poll locations during elections. It is the same as campaining in my book since violence was threatened and no action was taken. That tells me he condoned the action. Once again Obama thinks he can just override the law. What a joke he is. One day you left wing nutswingers will see the light as many already have. Hope it is not to late for you when you do.

[David88vert]

You think some 3rd tier political appointee made that decision himself? If you do, I have been giving you FAR too much credit.

I do.

Obama does not have the time to look at every case and make a decision. It is a physical impossibility. Usually, the president's cabinet advisors will make a decision, of which he will be informed of in a brief fast-moving meeting.
This case would have been nothing more than a small bullet point on a PP, if it even came up at all. A lot is done in the president's name without him being involved. It's called delegation.
The reality is that his cabinet staff are making the decisions, that's why it is important to choose a president that will choose good advisors.

[AirMax95]

So, before you read, you have YET to show me how Obama is racist.

You think some 3rd tier political appointee made that decision himself? If you do, I have been giving you FAR too much credit.

Would Obama, or anyone else in the Justice Dept, throw this case out of it was Skinheads in their costumes? I can assure you the answer is a resounding "no". Then you add the rhetoric of Obama's friends Wright and Gates, along with the mentalities of his wife and it paints a pretty clear picture to anyone not blinded with awe at his very name.

David88vert took the words right off my keyboard.

I will bite into your scenario of "if" they were Skinheads. Skinheads are so fucking numb in the head that they would have inflicted violence, and claim to have done so in the name of Hitler. Hell, white america is so afraid of the "big black man" that George Foreman could have stood there in plain clothes and scared them, lol. So, can I say that they would have gotten off, NO. Until more of the story is reported no one can say "if" to anything. Recants, false testimony, etc could have easily turned this.

Look, you can continue to bash Wright and Gates. I know both of their history, where their speech and essay content come from, and why they do what they do. None of you here has listened to Wrights complete sermons, nor have you taken the time to grasp the message. Gates, don't even get me started! I bet 6.25 people here actually know him, outside of "the Harvard professor". Seemingly, there is no more white guilt, it is now white fear.

Go ahead, call me a racist too

That would be because no one will even admit who gave the order. How are you liking the new transparency in this administration?

I am willing to bet no one asked the question as to WHO gave the order, especially when people like you smear "Obama is a racist" to give blame to someone. When the who question is asked, or someone speaks, keep the racist 8 ball in the corner pocket sir.

Please show me a case within the last 25 years of a KKK rally at a polling place during a federal election.

Funny thing, there are not any CASES because charges were not brought up. Why? Well because when the KKK does their racist roundups, it considered peaceful. Putting KKK and peaceful in the same sentence.....OH EM GEE They have always gotten of on the the First Amendment, prohibiting government from abridging "the right of the people peaceably to assemble." Like I said, I don't condone the acts of the NBPP, I am making the fact that these idiots on both sides will solve their own problems; self destruction.

[AirMax95]

Here is a link that spells out more of the ruling, not much, but gives some insight.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...009-07-12.html

[TSiFTW]

Point being this. Race is race. Everyone with any life experience can racially profile. While race is relevant in a political discussion when it is drug in by a political figure it still is stupid. Arguing over whether it would be a big deal if KKK done the same thing. Hahaha. No point in it. The fact is the Panthers done it. Not the KKK. Get over it. Don't try to justify it. It was wrong. Period. It would be wrong NO MATTER WHO done it. And if you try to justify it, then you are wrong and you know it. Obama has much bigger fish to fry then race cards. Will he do it, he may try. That is to be seen. I just wish some people will quit looking at him as being black, and look at his political stand. You will see that he is failing. He is losing backing, his popularity is falling, and you're change isn't what you thought it would be. He has all the potential to be the next Jimmy Carter or quite possibly worse. When you watch the biased news channels, actually listen to what Obama has to say, not what the reporters are twisting it into. He is not your Robin Hood. He is rich. He got that way through deceiving us. You think he wants to cut his own throat to spite his face. Hell no he don't. Look past him being black and look at him as being a politician. Then do some real research and compare what he is trying to do with other world leaders of the past with the same principles and look at their failure rates. He is no hero. He is no savior. He is no President. He cares about himself and himself only. If you think he gives a damn about any of you then you are sadly mistaken. Sorry for the long ass post but I had too.

[AirMax95]

I really don't think anyone is justifying what was done by the NBBP. The KKK was brought up to show that 1) Its not new practice, 2) There are bad apples everywhere.

Also, I don't think he got rich by decieving people.

At the end of his term we all will look back and have opinions on him, as with all past politicians.

[TSiFTW]

I really don't think anyone is justifying what was done by the NBBP. The KKK was brought up to show that 1) Its not new practice, 2) There are bad apples everywhere.

Also, I don't think he got rich by decieving people.

At the end of his term we all will look back and have opinions on him, as with all past politicians.

I know your point. I was simply stating that the race should be (but isn't) null. Look past it. Look at the real political issues. The I just threw in some of my own. Real talk though, I would love to see him prove me wrong. I just don't think it'll happen.

[AirMax95]

I know your point. I was simply stating that the race should be (but isn't) null. Look past it. Look at the real political issues. The I just threw in some of my own. Real talk though, I would love to see him prove me wrong. I just don't think it'll happen.

Cool. I will save myself the torment and wait till the term is up.

I was browsing a few forums and lots of people are outraged at the charges being dropped. Plenty of them calling the Black Panthers racist, and that they have always been. The thing people need to distingush is that the Black Panters and the NEW Black Panthers are two VERY different organizations. The Black Panthers are actually at the throats of the New Balck Panthers because they are doing what blacks did not want done to them. Pisses me off Some people just don't get it. The way to keep the fight alive to combat racial discrimination and unjust acts is not to turn the table. As I get more free time, I am going to start speaking and volunteering at functions that address this topic, amongst others.

Ignorance and stupidity hold no race or color.

[LizBiz]

When Race involves politics, it is relevant. They are not saying your white I'm black yada yada. This is about a blatant disrespect for the law that states no campaining outside the poll locations during elections. It is the same as campaining in my book since violence was threatened and no action was taken. That tells me he condoned the action. Once again Obama thinks he can just override the law. What a joke he is. One day you left wing nutswingers will see the light as many already have. Hope it is not to late for you when you do.

Your opinion works for you however, it does not work for me. Let's just leave it at that. Politics is not my forte, but I do not quite grasp how this situation makes OBAMA racist.

[TSiFTW]

Ignorance and stupidity hold no race or color.

That is all that needs to be said.

[AirMax95]

Your opinion works for you however, it does not work for me. Let's just leave it at that. Politics is not my forte, but I do not quite grasp how this situation makes OBAMA racist.

It doesn't......

When BanginJimmy proves it, I'm moving to Pluto.

[TSiFTW]

Your opinion works for you however, it does not work for me. Let's just leave it at that. Politics is not my forte, but I do not quite grasp how this situation makes OBAMA racist.

First off I will start by saying that I did not say he was or wasn't. I don't know how his name was brought up in the first place considering the topic was about the Panthers. However he has done some things that should not be done by the President in my opinion. Anyone who puts themselves in a position to be racially profiled. Guess what? You will be profiled and ridiculed. It is just life.

Like I said in my other post, we can all racially profile. No doubt about that. If Obama does just one thing that fits that profile people will say he is racist. Just like if I (being white) yell Freebird at a bar, you will no doubt know what color I am without even looking. You could even say to your friends," hey you hear that white boy yell Freebird", without even looking at me. Are you being racist, probably not. Are you profiling, absolutely. We are all guilty of it! However, let someone hear you say that and they may take it as being racist. We all have our own views on politics no doubt. Obama just needs to stop doing things that CAN possibly make OUR president out as being a racist, and start focusing on more important issues than race. That is all.

[LizBiz]

I don't know how his name was brought up in the first place considering the topic was about the Panthers.

I was wondering the same, but the OP stated:

This proves to me that Obama is a racist, I mean, why else would this case be dropped?

he said it, not me. I'm just trying to make sense of it.

[AirMax95]

What on God's green earth has Obama done to, even at the least, make him out to be racist?

[TSiFTW]

What on God's green earth has Obama done to, even at the least, make him out to be racist?

Getting involved with ANYTHING at all that involves race, you may not want to discuss it and I don't want to discuss the happenings of recent,can be made out by some to be racist. He should not have gotten personally involved. Period. Therefore I stand by my statement that if it involves race he should disassociate himself from personally getting involved. Ever.

[Total_Blender]

What on God's green earth has Obama done to, even at the least, make him out to be racist?

I heard Obama eats babies for breakfast and puppies for dinner.

[AirMax95]

Getting involved with ANYTHING at all that involves race, you may not want to discuss it and I don't want to discuss the happenings of recent,can be made out by some to be racist. He should not have gotten personally involved. Period. Therefore I stand by my statement that if it involves race he should disassociate himself from personally getting involved. Ever.

Thank you sir for proving that no one understands the definition of racist or racism.

Seriously, people whore the word out like honda wheels on IA.

[AirMax95]

I heard Obama eats babies for breakfast and puppies for dinner.

Yeah, he's sitting next to me! We are going to KFC for lunch to feed our fried chicken crave and discuss the NFL season

[LizBiz]

If Obama does just one thing that fits that profile people will say he is racist.

Are you stating in general or on this subject, if you're talking about this subject...so because the case was dropped, this makes him look like a racist?

Obama just needs to stop doing things that CAN possibly make OUR president out as being a racist, and start focusing on more important issues than race. That is all.

how do these things make him look racist? I don't think OBAMA his focused on race......people make situations about race.

I'm going to go out on a bit of a limb here and say....race is discussed more so NOW than before, and we all know why. Everytime something happens race gets thrown into the equation, by people.

[Total_Blender]

Therefore I stand by my statement that if it involves race he should disassociate himself from personally getting involved. Ever.

Thats kind of hard for him to do when his critics drag his name into arguments. He was mentioned in the first post on IA about the Gates incident, it was something like "we elected the first Black president... the era of White guilt is over!!!1!!".

Some people look to him like he's the leader and spokesperson of all Black people, and that all Black people everywhere are in agreement on everything, all the time

[TSiFTW]

Thank you sir for proving that no one understands the definition of racist or racism.

Seriously, people whore the word out like honda wheels on IA.

That is the point I was trying to get across. The term racism has became so broad spectrum that it is thrown around like a stick in a dog park. I am simply trying to say, no more racism bullshit, lets get onto the real topics.

[AirMax95]

Thats kind of hard for him to do when his critics drag his name into arguments. He was mentioned in the first post on IA about the Gates incident, it was something like "we elected the first Black president... the era of White guilt is over!!!1!!".

Some people look to him like he's the leader and spokesperson of all Black people, and that all Black people everywhere are in agreement on everything, all the time

Ahh, which brings me to another irritating topic......I shall save it for another day.