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[BanginJimmy]

#2 has to go, the logistics of it for an entire country just seem impossible. The government cannot be there making sure women are taking their birth control. Now, I would be for a system where after so many kids (2 out of wedlock) you either have a tubal ligation or lose your benefit. I feel weird as a man saying something like that since it feels so.. stereotypical alpha male like.

It is complex and I know it is, but it can be done. I go back and forth on the birth control pills myself, but the simple fact is that there has to be something in place to curb the welfare babies. It is a fact that if you grow up on welfare you are many times more likely to be on welfare yourself when you are an adult. Rewarding deviant behavor will simply draw more people to that behavior.

#1 The idea is to lower the cost of the plan correct? You want to pay for drug testing for everyone on welfare?

Drug testing is cheap and I dont propose testing everyone every month. Random testing is all that would be needed. The thinking is simple, you cant get many jobs if you are using drugs, why should you get a handout from the govt if you are? Also involved is mandatory treatment if you do pop.

And what happens to those who get kicked off of welfare and become druggies with no income? Each action has a reaction, are you ready for more homeless and possibly higher crime rate, larger incarceration all in the name of getting some pot smokers off of welfare? Does the gain justify the added social headache or repercussion? This one takes a lot of social study and research.

All this says that you have no problems with somone getting welfare, then using your money to get high. I have a very serious problem with that. All of the things you listed are an everyday occurance within the welfare system. Maybe we should bar anyone with a felony conviction from receiving welfare also.

It has to be questioned why are we kicking them off of welfare, is it because they are less likely to be productive or is it to clean up the image of welfare? After answering those questions again it refers back to the notion of, is it worth it?

The point is to reduce the burden of welfare on the tax payers by helping people get off it. I can assure you though, a HS dropout drug addict is far less productive than a clean college grad.

IMO, yes, it is worth it to rid the system of everyone that uses welfare as an occupation and not the SHORT TERM stop gap it was meant to be.

#2 Are you wanting them to find a job or get educated? That is really the only question I have, I've always agreed with capping welfare.

Getting an education typically results in far better employment oppertunities. There will always be plenty of people to fill the menial labor jobs that are out there. As the US is forced more and more into a service and high tech production economy, people are going to need more education as the menial labor jobs are drying up.