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    Quote Originally Posted by SPOOLIN
    Lead is bad for YOUR Bodily health, bad fuel mileage is only bad for the planet and our available resources.
    So is carbon monoxide that is emmitted from unleaded cars. Leaded fuel burns far better and cleaner than unleaded which leads to the MUCH better mpg numbers.



    To make another point, there is only so far you can take efficiency of design. At that point, the only way you are going to increase gas milage is to reduce rolling mass. These ighter weight cars would be deathtraps on the roads, just like most current high milage vehicles like the Prius and the Smart car. I did a quick look and found that the increasing safty of the prius is directly connected with slightly lower fuel economy. My guess is that they added weight in the form of bracing and safety equipment, causing the very weak motor to lose some of its efficiency.

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    I know yall have missed me coming into one of these "political" type threads and putting in my big , so I'll try not to let you down....

    I'm actually surprised that only a couple of you are actually getting down to the REAL core here: It's Socialism. That's all it is. It may be masked and mirrored to look like Eco-friendly mumbo jumbo, but at it's core it's Big Brother trying to make more people dependent on the Gov't to fill their needs.

    #1. Our Gov't neither has the power nor was it ever designed to be the overseer of 95% of the things they stick their noses into now. The only reason they do? The same reason crack dealers stay in business....addiction and lack of self drive. Keep the crackheads hooked, then you have repeat customers guaranteed. Keep mindless Americans hooked on Gov't as their "savior" to all that ails, then you have guaranteed votes next election.

    #2. This is just one more step toward Gov't control of Free Enterprise. How? Well, that's obvious. They already "bail out" companies that should just be let alone to either figure out how to fix itself or go bankrupt. That's how Free Enterprise system works. Supply and Demand ideaology. Look at GM. The Gov't wants to "save" it, only for it to go under in a few years anyway. Why save it? If they didn't make the right choices, let them go down in flames. Someone better will come along to take it's place. Just like the Post Office. Stamps cost more and more and more every year, yet the service and necessity of that service gets worse and worse. Gov't wants to keep it in place, for what? If we now email instead of write a letter, why keep it around? Wait.....wait......let me let the cat out of the bag for all you people that can't think for yourselves.......IT'S BECAUSE OF VOTES......I SAID IT, VOTES. You come in and ACT like the savior and keep people from losing their jobs, then you guarantee their votes next election. See how that works? So even though it totally screws up the fabric of our so called "Free Enterprise" system by continually prolonging the inevitable, they do it TO GET VOTES LATER. Who cares if they put is in debt for millenia to come? Who cares if it accomplishes absolutely nothing? Who cares if we waste more than we gain? Politicians care. It's job security for them.

    #3. What's next? The Gov't telling us when we can have sex and with whom? Don't laugh. I'm certain noone ever imagined the Gov't would ever "bail out" a sinking ship 10 yrs ago, yet here it is. So who is to say that since they can now tell us what car we HAVE TO drive, that the control of what we do in the bedroom is far fetched???? Think about it. They're already telling businesses how to do their business and to whom. They're telling us what kind of car we must drive. What's next?

    #4. When are people going to ever take responsability for their own lives? When are they going to quit being dependent on big brother to give them what they WON'T provide for themselves? Look at the next big thing, Gov't run, Gov't owned, the next big cluster F.......Centralized Health Care. Go ask Canadians if they like theirs. It's just another way to keep the masses, who are too lazy to do for themselves let alone THINK for themselves, dependent on Gov't to give them their daily hand out. They give no fore thought to the consequences. All they see is, "hey, I don't have to pay for health insurance any more!!! Hoooray!!!."

    Let the failing company fail. They either find a way to survive or re-invent themselves to adapt or just fail. Small companies fail every day. Why aren't we saving them? After all, they are the ones that employ the majority of the American work force anyway.

    I've succeeded and failed at business. I learned far more from the failures than I did from the successes. I adapted and moved on. My arms didn't fall off. I didn't die. It's life. Deal with it. Quit expecting someone else to come and dust you off like your mommy did when you were 3.

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