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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    . None of it meant anything and it was only done as a matter of political expedience. The attacks were HIGHLY publicized to take the spotlight off of him.
    You misunderstood what I meant but those are valid points. However there wasn't a point during his presidency that there wasn't a spotlight on him for some scandal the republicans were trumping up.

    What I had meant was that he was under pressure for his iron fisted responses to those situations. Expanding programs of domestic spying like George W. Bush did would have gone over like a lead balloon pre 9'11.

    But back to the topic at hand, if the justice department does get a special prosecutor and they do proceed with a grand jury investigation it is highly likely those being prosecuted will be let off the hook.

    The documents being released and news coming out now are bringing about the outrage from the public and the pressure on the administration to prosecute. If it goes to a grand jury, all of the official discourse about it will become part of the grand jury investigation and will therefore be out of the public eye. People will forget about it and the outrage and pressure on the administration will pass. Meanwhile the grand jury gives these guys a slap on the wrist.

    Anyone heard anything about Scooter Libby lately? He was convicted of perjury by a Federal Grand Jury, and his punishment of a 30 month sentence was commuted by Pres. Bush (meaning instead of serving a year at Club Fed he was just sent home) and all he really got was a $245,000 fine and some community service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender
    You misunderstood what I meant but those are valid points. However there wasn't a point during his presidency that there wasn't a spotlight on him for some scandal the republicans were trumping up.
    I wouldnt exactly calling it trumped up. The BJ in the oral office I couldnt care less about. The fact that he perjured himself and had zero consequences for it bothered me greatly and lead to me leaving the Republican party. Yes, I used to be a registered and donating republican, that changed in 2000.

    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender
    What I had meant was that he was under pressure for his iron fisted responses to those situations. Expanding programs of domestic spying like George W. Bush did would have gone over like a lead balloon pre 9'11.
    There are alot of pieces of legislation that pass during or immediately following a crisis or war that would not otherwise be passed. Federal withholdings is another one of those.




    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender
    Anyone heard anything about Scooter Libby lately? He was convicted of perjury by a Federal Grand Jury, and his punishment of a 30 month sentence was commuted by Pres. Bush (meaning instead of serving a year at Club Fed he was just sent home) and all he really got was a $245,000 fine and some community service.
    I know a Dem isnt going to say anything about Bush's pardons. Do I really need to mention the people that Clinton pardoned in his last nights in power?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    I know a Dem isnt going to say anything about Bush's pardons. Do I really need to mention the people that Clinton pardoned in his last nights in power?
    I was just using a recent example. Libby didn't get a full pardon, he still had to pay the fine and do the comm. svc. If he'd have been pardoned he'd have gotten off scot free.

    Quote Originally Posted by vetckkidd
    Blender you post TOTAL conjecture and opinions or you pass yout thoughts off as facts.
    I will acknowledge that I have posted more opinion to this thread than to the others, I don't have much time for research lately with school breaking my balls.

    Post your sources that show that the ultimate success in a military campaign is a function of total military expenditure. This ought to be good.

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