New World Order

[BanginJimmy]

No it HAS TO MEAN that we are all about to die. Why be prepared?

You are right. I will start to fortify my house against the World Bank's murder squads that are roaming the streets and net in search of those that threaten their power.

[Elbow]

LOL

BTW you live in Hiram? Cool, my girlfriend does for a little while longer, I am up there sometimes.

[BanginJimmy]

Yea I live in this hell hole. If I get this job at lockheed me and the wife are planning to move into the Cartersville area and build a new house.

[YoTa_BoX]

@_@ I live in Hiram as well.. well...Dallas...but ya same diff


should stop in and check out the shop some time :P

[BanginJimmy]

what shop is that?

[Elbow]

Yeah what shop I will be up there tomorrow lol.

[Total_Blender]

http://tvshack.net/documentaries/The_Obama_Deception/

Here we have a movie about Barack Obama and about how him and those big, evil, sweaty, banker mens from the tri-lateral commission and builderberg are trying to install a one world government.
Hated it!!

Seriously though, we have all seen "The Obama Deception" theres no need for you to keep re-linking it. Its just the same Alex Jones crap that gets busted apart in every other thread.

[YoTa_BoX]

PM'ed both of you.

[preferredduck]

Conspiracy THEORIES make me LOL, I bet most of you still believe those "FEMA coffins" are for martial law as well right?

they are for you actually!!! there are many reasons they are made, but if they are for coffins, do they go outside the coffin or inside of it cuz i don't see it going in the coffin. i did find some info on mass grave sites and certain things reported there but have not seen anything that strikes me as it's real.

[preferredduck]

hey make fun of the "bankers" all you want, what's our national debt again, and we owe it to a private bank. hmm i see a problem there. woodrow wilson apologized for selling out his country to the federal reserve. now after the G-20 meetings all countries are borrowing another 1trillion from the IMF/World Bank, who is going to pay that back exactly. The Fed also has a direct link to the housing bubble, deregulation of mortages, control of the interest rates, money flow, etc. actually bernake made a statement recently that pretty much made it clear what happened, i do not remeber exactly but i was a loan officer for several years so i know how housing works. another thing FDR did exactly the same thing that bush/obama are doing for the economy and guess what it did not work. infrastructure projects, capital infusion, gov't spending are all things FDR did and we are following his road map that did not work. what worked was war b/c half the younger population was at was so unemployment went down and war=$$, and this is not "alex jones" material this was actually on the history channel last night and i'll be damned obama is following in FDR's footsteps. there is a movie called money masters that's really good and explains in more detail on how our "credit" system works b/c the way i see it the US is about tapped out and bankrupt. look at GM, too much debt= bankrupcy and our debt is spiraling out of control now. we spent 3 trillion and had less than 10 hours to read the bill and the public never got a chance so we were lied to, and that doesn't sit well with me.

[NAMNORI]

nothing is being done as promised by the new messiah for america. We are forever screwed with people that can't tell the truth to them selves muchless the general public.

[preferredduck]

nothing is being done as promised by the new messiah for america. We are forever screwed with people that can't tell the truth to them selves muchless the general public.

i agree with that. the only campaign promise he made that he is sticking to is the civilian army(militia) that he wants. and if you don't believe me go to obama's own website and it's there, it's also running on tv commercials now. coming to a town near you a 19yr old w/a nightstick praising obama.

[NAMNORI]

he will be wielding more than just a nightstick, that's not a change i want!

[SL65AMG]

he will be wielding more than just a nightstick, that's not a change i want!

why is this "army" even necessary?

[Total_Blender]

Money masters = more alex jones drivel.

Seriously... I've seen several of his films and I'm unimpressed. The Obama deception, money masters, the one about the freemasons and the templars (I forget what it was called), Zeitghiest (I know thats not his but it falls into the same category).

As far as unemployment going down during WWII, that was all deficit spending (made possible by people buying war bonds). Soldiers do not generally fight wars for free, they have to be trained/equipped/paid just like every other federal employee. I really wish the gov't would issue bonds nowadays instead of just borrowing from China. Why not keep the the intrest paid on bonds here in our economy, instead of filling the pockets of our main economic rival?

[BanginJimmy]

you can buy govt bonds here in the US, but you are right. There has never been an effort by the govt to sell them domestically.

[NAMNORI]

Money masters = more alex jones drivel.

Seriously... I've seen several of his films and I'm unimpressed. The Obama deception, money masters, the one about the freemasons and the templars (I forget what it was called), Zeitghiest (I know thats not his but it falls into the same category).

As far as unemployment going down during WWII, that was all deficit spending (made possible by people buying war bonds). Soldiers do not generally fight wars for free, they have to be trained/equipped/paid just like every other federal employee. I really wish the gov't would issue bonds nowadays instead of just borrowing from China. Why not keep the the intrest paid on bonds here in our economy, instead of filling the pockets of our main economic rival?

yes it would be nice if they did offer bonds to help stimulate the economy but if it keeps getting worse those aren't going to be worth the paper they are printed on.

[preferredduck]

yes it would be nice if they did offer bonds to help stimulate the economy but if it keeps getting worse those aren't going to be worth the paper they are printed on.

ok this one is a long one and some points have baffled me so help me out here and critsize away.
yep i agree on all the points here. in some of the videos i've mentioned some stuff can be backed up though and is public record and some is put in how the creator wants it to be, i have noticed that so i'm not sold on their ideas. it's public record on who wrote the federal reserve act and has been clear on who the interests were for, and it wasn't the people. i liked the gold backed system instead of a credit system b/c as i have said we are pretty much bankrupt esp if the economy isn't stimulated(and some top economic folks say it's a temp stilmulation) then what do we do borrow more money or wind up like zimbabwee going bankrupt. zeitgeist actually had some good info and a lot of the things could be backed up but you would have to do some digging. rockafeller made a fortune financing both sides of the war, and the bush family made it's $ the same way and was more involved embezzling nazi $ and was caught and charged with war crimes and had assets frozen until a friend unfoze them a few years later. rockafeller with standard oil should have been charged with trading with the enemy b/c hitlers planes could not fly without a patented additive. so onto current events i can't say 100% 9/11 was an inside job but something is really fishy about it. and in barbara bush's book she admitted that marvin bush's last day being head of security at WTC was 9/10, so the man is in charge of security and could pretty much cover anything. those buildings, all three of them fell at free fall speed which would be impossible if there was resistance from a "pankake effect". listen to the firefighters tapes recently released and you will here them on the floor the plane hit talking about sending three hoses up to put it out quick. if it was sooo hot to melt the steel structure of the whole building then how could a firefighter be on that floor, and the people coming out of the hole where the plane hit, wouldn't they have cooked? WTC 7 had a lot of information for the FBI, stocks, very vital info, a lot of gov't agencies were based there, and a german company claims to have recovered data from 7 regarding insider trading of the airlines stocks for put out options which made those sgareholder lots of $$ and these were people in high places. Another note is the man who owned the buildings made 2.4 billion on his insurance agreement which was modified 6mos earlier to include being hit by a plane(public record) and a couple of years later he admitted to having WTC 7 pulled and we all know it takes months of planning to pull a bulding properly. Also no plane found at the pentagon, no rolls royce engine found, just 1 part to an engine and it didn't match what a jet has, and less than a week later a crime scene is cleaned up. if they could not FIND THE PLANE THEN HOW COULD THEY ID HUMAN REMAINS FOR THE PASSENGERS, that makes no sense b/c the body is cremated at a lesser TEMP than a Rolls royce motor would melt. there was nothing left of flight 93 at all again bodies were id'd with nothing there and the county coronr even left shortly after arrival b/c there were no remains, and even the plane crash in buffalo you could ID that a plane hit a house and burned for a long time. look at every plane crash in history and you can alwyas tell it was a plane clearly. shortly after the patriot act is passed which took away a lot of our rights(you were declared a terrorist if you were against it), and if you look back in history hitler had a similar law after the reichstag fire(cant spell it) a while before he started his world domination campaign. so everyone pick out the questions here that you may be able to solve b/c some things go against the laws of physics here and it baffles me on what is really going on. who dod it i don't know, but something doesn't sit right with me. it took several years of people prying to get the firefighters tapes released and some info still is not given even though it goes against the freedom of information act, and on that note two places are suing the gov't b/c of that act and the fact that the FED will not give the banks names and amounts of money that were loaned along with the terms and this is taxpayers $$$. i'm done with the book here guys so fire away. i have looked at all sides of the fence on these subjects with an open mind but it just doesn't make sense

[Total_Blender]

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BRB gotta go get some visene and an asprin.

[SL65AMG]

ok this one is a long one and some points have baffled me so help me out here and critsize away.
yep i agree on all the points here. in some of the videos i've mentioned some stuff can be backed up though and is public record and some is put in how the creator wants it to be, i have noticed that so i'm not sold on their ideas. it's public record on who wrote the federal reserve act and has been clear on who the interests were for, and it wasn't the people. i liked the gold backed system instead of a credit system b/c as i have said we are pretty much bankrupt esp if the economy isn't stimulated(and some top economic folks say it's a temp stilmulation) then what do we do borrow more money or wind up like zimbabwee going bankrupt. zeitgeist actually had some good info and a lot of the things could be backed up but you would have to do some digging. rockafeller made a fortune financing both sides of the war, and the bush family made it's $ the same way and was more involved embezzling nazi $ and was caught and charged with war crimes and had assets frozen until a friend unfoze them a few years later. rockafeller with standard oil should have been charged with trading with the enemy b/c hitlers planes could not fly without a patented additive. so onto current events i can't say 100% 9/11 was an inside job but something is really fishy about it. and in barbara bush's book she admitted that marvin bush's last day being head of security at WTC was 9/10, so the man is in charge of security and could pretty much cover anything. those buildings, all three of them fell at free fall speed which would be impossible if there was resistance from a "pankake effect". listen to the firefighters tapes recently released and you will here them on the floor the plane hit talking about sending three hoses up to put it out quick. if it was sooo hot to melt the steel structure of the whole building then how could a firefighter be on that floor, and the people coming out of the hole where the plane hit, wouldn't they have cooked? WTC 7 had a lot of information for the FBI, stocks, very vital info, a lot of gov't agencies were based there, and a german company claims to have recovered data from 7 regarding insider trading of the airlines stocks for put out options which made those sgareholder lots of $$ and these were people in high places. Another note is the man who owned the buildings made 2.4 billion on his insurance agreement which was modified 6mos earlier to include being hit by a plane(public record) and a couple of years later he admitted to having WTC 7 pulled and we all know it takes months of planning to pull a bulding properly. Also no plane found at the pentagon, no rolls royce engine found, just 1 part to an engine and it didn't match what a jet has, and less than a week later a crime scene is cleaned up. if they could not FIND THE PLANE THEN HOW COULD THEY ID HUMAN REMAINS FOR THE PASSENGERS, that makes no sense b/c the body is cremated at a lesser TEMP than a Rolls royce motor would melt. there was nothing left of flight 93 at all again bodies were id'd with nothing there and the county coronr even left shortly after arrival b/c there were no remains, and even the plane crash in buffalo you could ID that a plane hit a house and burned for a long time. look at every plane crash in history and you can alwyas tell it was a plane clearly. shortly after the patriot act is passed which took away a lot of our rights(you were declared a terrorist if you were against it), and if you look back in history hitler had a similar law after the reichstag fire(cant spell it) a while before he started his world domination campaign. so everyone pick out the questions here that you may be able to solve b/c some things go against the laws of physics here and it baffles me on what is really going on. who dod it i don't know, but something doesn't sit right with me. it took several years of people prying to get the firefighters tapes released and some info still is not given even though it goes against the freedom of information act, and on that note two places are suing the gov't b/c of that act and the fact that the FED will not give the banks names and amounts of money that were loaned along with the terms and this is taxpayers $$$. i'm done with the book here guys so fire away. i have looked at all sides of the fence on these subjects with an open mind but it just doesn't make sense

good points here. it does make sense.....


for one, those buildings fell the same way that 99% buildings fall that are blown up to be removed- straight down. If the planes hit the top of the building then why did the bottom of the building collapse first. the structure was designed to handle some serious weight and support itself. the plane probably made it weaker of course but not enough to make the building collapse entirely. why didnt the top portion of the building fall or shear off of the base of the building? why did they fall in a straight line??? it was hit on the top and the top would be the weak point because it was where the fires were located- heat, and it had the brunt of the impact - stress.


9/11 was BS

[BanginJimmy]

good points here. it does make sense.....


for one, those buildings fell the same way that 99% buildings fall that are blown up to be removed- straight down. If the planes hit the top of the building then why did the bottom of the building collapse first. the structure was designed to handle some serious weight and support itself. the plane probably made it weaker of course but not enough to make the building collapse entirely. why didnt the top portion of the building fall or shear off of the base of the building? why did they fall in a straight line??? it was hit on the top and the top would be the weak point because it was where the fires were located- heat, and it had the brunt of the impact - stress.


9/11 was BS

All of this has been explained by countless structural, stress fatigue and metallurgical engineers.

[NAMNORI]

All of this has been explained by countless structural, stress fatigue and metallurgical engineers.

Yeah but really come on now the government chose which people were talking to the media and who wasn't. No it's not an Alex Jones vid it's from the history channel, they explained how 9/11 was an inside job not only our country but some leaders of middle eastern countries actually supplied money to the terrorists and when it was brought up in front of the 9/11 commision the excuse for not investigating those payments was "There was no reason to investigate". Now that's just fucked up!

[BanginJimmy]

Everyone knows that al-Queda has govt sponsorship in the middle east. At the time it was mainly Afghanistan and Iran, now it is mainly Iran. Some things are not advertised to the general public because it could reveal intelligence gathering processes, that doesnt mean it isnt investigated though.

What makes you think the govt can control who the press talks to? You really are an idiot that will believe anything you read on those retarded websites. We have this thing called freedom or speech and freedom of the press. Both of those guarantee that the govt did not stop anyone from talking to the press.

[SL65AMG]

Everyone knows that al-Queda has govt sponsorship in the middle east. At the time it was mainly Afghanistan and Iran, now it is mainly Iran. Some things are not advertised to the general public because it could reveal intelligence gathering processes, that doesnt mean it isnt investigated though.

What makes you think the govt can control who the press talks to? You really are an idiot that will believe anything you read on those retarded websites. We have this thing called freedom or speech and freedom of the press. Both of those guarantee that the govt did not stop anyone from talking to the press.

we also have something called the patriot act which violates ones right to privacy, among other things.... in the name of safety

we also have the 2nd amendment which gets stepped on constantly and is repeatedly being attacked by politicians.... in the name of safety

we also have posse comitatus which prohibits us forces from being deployed/ used against the citizens on US soil..... that has also been violated numerous times in the past few months..... in the name of safety


the list goes on....


are you noticing a trend here????


im beginning to think this this administration doesnt give a damn about the constitution

[BanginJimmy]

give me a credible sourse that says US military was used in a law enforcement capacity. That road block in that was supposedly canceled in TN doesnt work as there is no proof that the military was going to be used in a law enforcement capacity. Bama doesnt work, they were not acting in a law enforcement capacity.

[SL65AMG]

give me a credible sourse that says US military was used in a law enforcement capacity. That road block in that was supposedly canceled in TN doesnt work as there is no proof that the military was going to be used in a law enforcement capacity. Bama doesnt work, they were not acting in a law enforcement capacity.

70000 troops deployed during katrina - DOD


Troops to deploy In USA -Army Times

Illinois Natl Gurard going into Indiana -New York Times


Troops in Alabama - CNS News
they were sent to patrol the streets and control any thing that may have happened after the shooting - I.E. police work -- legitimate


20000 troops to be stationed in the US to respond to domestic disturbances - Natural News.com (looks pretty legit to me)



i mean come on man you actually support them being on our own soil, to be used against citizens in the name of "safety"?? ive seen many of your posts and this just doesnt seem like anything you would be supportive of...

[BanginJimmy]

70000 troops deployed during katrina - DOD

national guard units in an federal disaster area

Illinois Natl Gurard going into Indiana -New York Times

National Guard troops doing security at a road race. Not exactly busting down doors and arresting people for drug possession is it?

Troops in Alabama - CNS News
they were sent to patrol the streets and control any thing that may have happened after the shooting - I.E. police work -- legitimate

not patrolling the streets, directing traffic for 3 hours while sheriffs got something to eat.


20000 troops to be stationed in the US to respond to domestic disturbances - Natural News.com (looks pretty legit to me)[/quote]
hasnt happened yet and if you think that site looks legitimate then I wont bother talking to you anymore.

i mean come on man you actually support them being on our own soil, to be used against citizens in the name of "safety"?? ive seen many of your posts and this just doesnt seem like anything you would be supportive of...

I'm not supportive of it, but I am more against conspiracy theories and nut jobs with access to computers.

[preferredduck]

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BRB gotta go get some visene and an asprin.

hahaha sorry man i thought about editing it a bit but went to bed!!! i was ranting too so it would have been an edit afterwards.

[preferredduck]

70000 troops deployed during katrina - DOD


Troops to deploy In USA -Army Times

Illinois Natl Gurard going into Indiana -New York Times


Troops in Alabama - CNS News
they were sent to patrol the streets and control any thing that may have happened after the shooting - I.E. police work -- legitimate


20000 troops to be stationed in the US to respond to domestic disturbances - Natural News.com (looks pretty legit to me)



i mean come on man you actually support them being on our own soil, to be used against citizens in the name of "safety"?? ive seen many of your posts and this just doesnt seem like anything you would be supportive of...

katrina the governor gave permission, along with indiana, that second articlewas disturbing towards the end with the things they are training for. these are also people who have been in wars. in alabama the govorner didn't call them which is proper procedure, the state has to ask for help they don't just show up.

as far as the 20000 troops go i think i actually saw that a while back on the mainstream media and ever since then we have had more "drills" involving these people invading towns near you. All of a sudden we have a need for a massive roit control brigade along with the obama civil army to control the population if there were to be an "attack or disaster". Hmmm seems to me somebody knowa something. you wanna know a new link to the people who control our tax money.

AIG had the money come in the front door and went out the back to "goldmans sachs" a place that every person in that department has a connection to. henry paulson, geithner(and some of his staff), bernake. An older AIG exec spoke up last night and pretty much explained the trail and how to make the system right and pumping out money was not an option.

[preferredduck]

All of this has been explained by countless structural, stress fatigue and metallurgical engineers.

no it has not. several people spoke up right after 9/11 but a week later their story changed and they had a different attitude. free fall speeds mean absolutely no resistance, and most models i've seen and the actual designers of the building talking about how the steel was structure there would have had to be steel still in the air afterwards. there is a building that burned for 48 hrs of more in i think south america and the steel frame was all that stood. it should have melted and collaped. metal just does not melt and rolls royce engines for planes don't just "melt"either.