straight from the army times, but it's ok

[preferredduck]

As I have explained several times and you have ignored, I would have a legal right to disobey an illegal order and VERY few members of the military would differ in that reasoning.

Oh and those people that say they are going to start fighting the military the first time they see one in uniform, They are simply ignorant and will only force the military to fire on them. Just like in NO after katrina when the NG was shooting at civilians that were shooting at rescue boats and helicopters.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/...per/index.html

you are correct firing on the military would be a bad thing, shooting at boats and rescue choppers is not a good idea either. very good answer to my question. i may have it worded differently than how you say it, but thats tyhe meat of what im talking about. seeing foriegn military on US soils makes me wonder but i have not seen much proof of that, though it's been mentioned a few times. i figured most soldiers would be like you and would not fire on americans unless provoked(ie shot at etc). i watche the "rioting at the G20 summit and everyone that got roughty seemed to be covering their face and had a hood on while other protesters nearby were like WTF and they are saying a man died at the protest. the good part is im not anti military and anti law enforcement, honestly the two professions don't get paid enough, but if they are somehow manipulated into some BS then i won't like it. BTW have you been deployed, they thought abt sending my dad to desert storm years ago right before he got out if that shows my age. speaking of katrina i know blackwater was there from the get go, some people claim of explosions near the levy(could have been anything really) and a reporter had a run in with them before the national guard was there. remember the british MI-5 people that were caught by US troops in Iraq shooting at americans and causing a lot of problems. they were detained, then released with a big apology and then nothing. check into that, sometimes the enemy is a false one, but your gut instinct can sometimes give it away.

[Total_Blender]

. speaking of katrina i know blackwater was there from the get go, some people claim of explosions near the levy(could have been anything really) and a reporter had a run in with them before the national guard was there. remember the british MI-5 people that were caught by US troops in Iraq shooting at americans and causing a lot of problems. .

Provide non-Alex Jones/infowars/WND/Stormfront/etc sources for this information. I am curious on how you know Blackwater was there when I am 99.99999999999998% sure that you were not there yourself witnessing it first hand.

Insinuating that Blackwater was in N.O. blowing up levies is not a claim you want to make without something credible to back it up.

[preferredduck]

Provide non-Alex Jones/infowars/WND/Stormfront/etc sources for this information. I am curious on how you know Blackwater was there when I am 99.99999999999998% sure that you were not there yourself witnessing it first hand.

Insinuating that Blackwater was in N.O. blowing up levies is not a claim you want to make without something credible to back it up.

i never said blackwater was blowing anything up. i have read things claiming that and it was not found on any of the sites you listed above and honestly you can't believe everything you read. as far as blackwater being in new orleans i'll have toi find the video, done by a reporter, which has the claim of blackwater being there. they are a military contracted company that has trained muscle etc, so natural assumption would be they were there. the MI-5 claim made headline news a few year ago but was swept away quickly, i'll see what i can dig up on it. do you not notice a lot of the things on "jones" website has a link to the site it was from, 80% from mainstream media outlets. what do you think about US guns going to mexico and causing violence, it's BS and honestly what you see on TV is dilluted and fit for TV.

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do you not notice a lot of the things on "jones" website has a link to the site it was from, 80% from mainstream media outlets. what do you think about US guns going to mexico and causing violence, it's BS and honestly what you see on TV is dilluted and fit for TV.

I don't make it a habit of looking at Jones' websites, but his videos never attribute their "facts" to any sources. And all of his links usually point to WND (which is also a conspiracy nut site) and Fox News (need I say more).

As far as US guns causing violence in Mexico, I see this as the US looking for an angle to go into Mexico and straighten the whole mess out. Which we aren't really in a position to do (we're stretched thin as it is with Iraq and Afghanistan already). But the danger of the violance in Mexico spilling over in to the US is something I worry about... from what I see from mainstream media sources people in TX can hear the gun battles on the other side of the border.

[preferredduck]

I don't make it a habit of looking at Jones' websites, but his videos never attribute their "facts" to any sources. And all of his links usually point to WND (which is also a conspiracy nut site) and Fox News (need I say more).

As far as US guns causing violence in Mexico, I see this as the US looking for an angle to go into Mexico and straighten the whole mess out. Which we aren't really in a position to do (we're stretched thin as it is with Iraq and Afghanistan already). But the danger of the violance in Mexico spilling over in to the US is something I worry about... from what I see from mainstream media sources people in TX can hear the gun battles on the other side of the border.

fox news is BS and a lot of the content jones has does not produce a source, but as i have stated many times i do not 100% think everything he says is true. if you match his story to one on cnn you get 2 different amgles and then you go from there to find the facts elsewhere(not WND either, i have never actually heard of the site til u mentioned it). i think the mexico "drug wars" is a way to get steps taken to disarm americans. it would also help furthur along the north american union. you don't even want my opinion on the drug trade b/c the way i see it when they parade around a giant bust, i would bet the house there is a shipment that comes in and is probably filmed by the news crew!!! after reading the history of the opium trade and how it was traced to some people in high places it would not suprise me in the least bit. also on that note look at the opium output of afghanistan since we have occupied it, it has gone up for some reason. and jiimy i am looking into the roadblock that was mentioned and i will also see if i can finde the clip from the news abt the govorner being a little pissed about it. like i said i usually watch lou dobbs and im sure thats where i saw it but the mayor of the town and govorner of alabama were a little upset about it. my whole family is military or retired military and even they see things that are fishy going on in the last 15 or so years.

[NAMNORI]

fox news is BS and a lot of the content jones has does not produce a source, but as i have stated many times i do not 100% think everything he says is true. if you match his story to one on cnn you get 2 different amgles and then you go from there to find the facts elsewhere(not WND either, i have never actually heard of the site til u mentioned it). i think the mexico "drug wars" is a way to get steps taken to disarm americans. it would also help furthur along the north american union. you don't even want my opinion on the drug trade b/c the way i see it when they parade around a giant bust, i would bet the house there is a shipment that comes in and is probably filmed by the news crew!!! after reading the history of the opium trade and how it was traced to some people in high places it would not suprise me in the least bit. also on that note look at the opium output of afghanistan since we have occupied it, it has gone up for some reason. and jiimy i am looking into the roadblock that was mentioned and i will also see if i can finde the clip from the news abt the govorner being a little pissed about it. like i said i usually watch lou dobbs and im sure thats where i saw it but the mayor of the town and govorner of alabama were a little upset about it. my whole family is military or retired military and even they see things that are fishy going on in the last 15 or so years.

It's not the drug wars that's going to cause the gun control laws as nuch as it is the people giong postal for no reason at all. Three different events in a week and now people are starting to talk about gun control seriously.

[Total_Blender]

people are starting to talk about gun control seriously.

They should. There are maybe 3-4 people on IA I would trust with gun ownership.

Most people on IA can't even exercise enough self control to keep from doing burnouts/redlining their motors at the Varsity meets.