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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul
    I know you guys keep preaching about 'OUR RIGHTS' well guess what all of these rights just make more problems for us in the end. We as americans have too many fucking rights as it is... so bad we extend rights to people who aren't even American and protect the criminals over the victims.

    This isn't civil war time; we don't need arms to keep the Red Coats from invading our farm lands. Owning a gun should be a privilege not a right.
    I actually agree with you to a point. My Issue comes with the fact that the first time 1 amendment contained in the bill of rights is sucessfully attacked it will DEFINATELY lead to other attacks against other rights. Maybe next time it is the 4th amendment that is attacked or the 5th.

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    I would love to know the people bitching about this that vote PRO LIFE
    I dont care about this either way. Both sides have a very legitimate arguement so this is one fight that will never go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    I actually agree with you to a point. My Issue comes with the fact that the first time 1 amendment contained in the bill of rights is sucessfully attacked it will DEFINATELY lead to other attacks against other rights. Maybe next time it is the 4th amendment that is attacked or the 5th.



    I dont care about this either way. Both sides have a very legitimate arguement so this is one fight that will never go away.
    but it would be quite interesting for someone to support gun laws on the basis of PERSONAL INFRINGEMENT yet vote PRO LIFE
    Paul "your bullshit makes the flowers grow"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul
    but it would be quite interesting for someone to support gun laws on the basis of PERSONAL INFRINGEMENT yet vote PRO LIFE

    The problem with that is the defination of life. Is a fetus an independant life, or is it an extension of the mother?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    The problem with that is the defination of life. Is a fetus an independant life, or is it an extension of the mother?
    it doesn't matter how you want to skin the cat it still is PERSONAL INFRINGEMENT - why don't we ban circumcisions b/c its cruelty to children? point being if you want to claim stance due to PERSONAL INFRINGEMENT then you should also be PRO CHOICE. i'm sure reps are having a field day w/ this so i just want to point out the obvious holes in such logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul
    it doesn't matter how you want to skin the cat it still is PERSONAL INFRINGEMENT - why don't we ban circumcisions b/c its cruelty to children? point being if you want to claim stance due to PERSONAL INFRINGEMENT then you should also be PRO CHOICE. i'm sure reps are having a field day w/ this so i just want to point out the obvious holes in such logic.

    It is personal infringement if the fetus is not considered to be a living being, but if the fetus is considered a baby then it is not personal infringement.

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