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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    No, but the media usually jumps on anything that may really stir some shit. You get your "facts" from the lowest forms ever, you read those tabloids in the checkout line of a store and come back posting Brittany Spears had a 39943lb baby horse.
    WHat are you talking about?

    Are you that delusional?

    Peter Schiff, CEO EuroPAC INTL (Economic Advisor to Ron Paul)
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    Recent Video
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGdj3...eature=related

    ^^^ THATS STEVE FORBES AND PETER SCHIFF, but i guess they are all loons! If these guys are all quacks why are prominent news organizations continuing to put them on?

    Just cause you dont want to believe it, doesnt mean it isnt true. These are guys that have been doing this for YEARS, not some conspiracy third world website.

    When you spend money an prop up stuff like we are doing, its going to collapse. The GOVT artificially controlled interest rates, RIGGED and COOKED their OWN BOOKS. And that doesnt scare you? and you think THEY are the ones who are going to fix this?




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    I have seen those before, I believe we have PROBLEMS, but not the USA will collapse.

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    im with simon. to me it seems like that all you want to post is the doom and the gloom shit. like i said if you want something done. run for an office start up a movement, do something. otherwise your bitching and moaning about shit that you think will happen just because a chart says so may happen. or it may not. simon is right. there are plenty of businesses that are doing god right now. what does that mean? well probably that our country is going in a new direction, should it not? yes, it should our country is so fucking scared of change that they want nothing different. this is why all you fags that are dissing what is going on right now are talking all this doom and gloom shit, because its all different. its not the normal "cover up and dont tell the american idiots anything" shits getting thrown out to the forefront now. i think thats a good thing. people like you an a few others in this thread are why this country is going down hill. you all are the ones that are making people not buy shit.

    i said this in another thread: the reason banks arent lending is because people like you are telling the average american that the economy is going down hill. which makes people not want to buy anything. if there was none of that. people may start to wise up and buy things, which in turn would probably make banks start lending because they see people being a little more lenient with their money. its all about cause and effect. all the causes and effects that you have pointed out are that if one person spends their money. they are going to fucked for the next few years.

    people need to fucking grow up and stop assuming the worst. like i said in my previous post, if this shit happens, then so be it. we got ourselves into this situation. our government was built by the pepole for the people and we let the people get over run by big business. its not their fault, they jumped on the opportunity. its our fault.

    all i am saying is that if something is to happen and our economy is to tank again, then so be it. we'll just get right back up hopefully and maybe even be better off then we were before. the only reason people are freaking out like i said was because all thats going on is something that no one is used to, so what to people do? cry about it. thats only going to make thing worse cause it shows are country dont give a shit and dont want to adapt with times.
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    Ok, so listen to all these NON DOOM AND GLOOM people

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVDzQ...eature=related

    NOtice the DOW (13,7xx).

    So Schiff has been right all along why should he be wrong now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd
    Ok, so listen to all these NON DOOM AND GLOOM people

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVDzQ...eature=related

    NOtice the DOW (13,7xx).

    So Schiff has been right all along why should he be wrong now?

    i dont know if this is directed towards me or not. but i never said any of them are wrong. but at the same time. you doing all this wining over whats taking place isnt going to do anything about it. if anything you should try and look for a positive in all of this negative, cause all your doing is contributing to the problem. what your doing isnt helping people but making it worse.
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    Blacknightteg just said everything I can, I have nothing more really to say. I am not stupid, I have watched every video you are posting, I have done research, I see what people "think" will happen, and see what is happening, but things happening DOES NOT MEAN it will do what they think. North Korea has a satellite they are launching, some people think it's a missile, I guess that means IT IS a missile right?

    Do your part in helping the economy, quit letting your fear spread to other people.

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    HAHA

    SO act like its no big deal, im not saying be fearful, im saying be PREPARED, there IS a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd
    HAHA

    SO act like its no big deal, im not saying be fearful, im saying be PREPARED, there IS a difference.
    You are right, saying be prepared means everything you state WILL happen.

    There is no sense in talking to someone who is so close minded, and full of fear. Continue with your predictions, you have been posting stupid predictions for a while and some days things go down, stay the same, rise, etc. I won't believe some random want to be business man on Import Atlanta. People like you have been scared for years. before Clinton even, look, we are all still standing.

    By the way sure it's a big deal, the stuff that is HAPPENING, your theories and predictions? Not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    You are right, saying be prepared means everything you state WILL happen.

    There is no sense in talking to someone who is so close minded, and full of fear. Continue with your predictions, you have been posting stupid predictions for a while and some days things go down, stay the same, rise, etc. I won't believe some random want to be business man on Import Atlanta. People like you have been scared for years. before Clinton even, look, we are all still standing.

    Lol cheap shots cause you cant keep up i assume?

    I do business overseas, ever take that into consideration? I talk to people OUTSIDE this country as well as do business INSIDE this country. I know what its like out there.

    Nothing is a for gone conclusion, nothing is for CERTAIN, but when 9/10 signs are pointing to it, yeah get your head out of the sand and think about it.

    Id rather have a gun an not need it, then need a gun an not have it.

    DOW is down 150 today, care to make a friendly wager? from 1 wanna be business man to 1 semi miata driving kid?

    $100 says the DOW is at 6000 by end of march
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    How about you tell me why you think everything will be ok? List me examples.

    My examples show trends in the DOW, Unemployment, SPending, Deficit, Economists and CEOs that know way more than we do.

    Please provide information that shows that we are NOT going to collapse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacknightteg
    i dont know if this is directed towards me or not. but i never said any of them are wrong. but at the same time. you doing all this wining over whats taking place isnt going to do anything about it. if anything you should try and look for a positive in all of this negative, cause all your doing is contributing to the problem. what your doing isnt helping people but making it worse.
    Again its not whining, its not "the sky is falling" , its educating people that say "ehhh, we havent failed before we wont fail now"

    People that dont have a real grip on what is going on
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    You are not getting the point I am making. I do business overseas as well smart ass, you don't know me, what I drive, or who I am. I have a Miata race car...what's that prove?? lol. In fact most everything I sell ships to another country and everything I sell here is shipped from another country.

    I am not saying everything is ok. I don't understand why you keep saying that. I know DOW is down, I know this. I am speaking of your fear that America will become a police state, the government will fall, all of that.

    We have a huge economic problem, I have said this many times, why do you keep saying I think everything is fine??

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    If all you post is so true, why hasn't the media swallowed it up?

    Charts and "facts" by people not that great, and also very close minded such as yourself. I can send you a link to news channels and you can read those? I have done just as much research as you, have family in the government, and I have yet to find anything that I truly believe or really see happening. You think the police state is coming, so you think the United States will turn into a country like North Korea...

    You also post your fear on "proposals" anything proposed you jump in, put something you are worried about with it, and say oh shit.

    It's clear you are extremely horrified about this situation.
    so you think economic advisors to the gov't are close minded, give me a friggin break. sounds like someone likes to argue a lil bit. all i will say is its ok to be aware of some things, not totally blind to them. if you call me crazy then you would call a lot of other people crazy too, but i don't really care what you think, i say you might be narrowminded and live in a bubble somewhere. its not all puppy dogs and rainbows, we all agree to disagree. so if you have seen all the videos and articles on the web then you sir have no life. hey GW used fear to pass a 700 billion dollar bill last sept that did no good, as a matter of fact aig is back asking for more money. that was fear tactics buddy and it worked.

    BTW the media can only air certain things, ever heard of rupert murdoch, i think he owns almost all major media outlets in the us. and watch lou dobbs at 7pmET, he is the only journalist with some balls. also remember the guy that was fired back after 9/11, i cant remember his name but he mentioned controlled demoltion on the air and was canned. the web is the last free place and they are trying to change that.
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    So you are saying the government is inducing fear now to crash the country to control the people? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    You are not getting the point I am making. I do business overseas as well smart ass, you don't know me, what I drive, or who I am. I have a Miata race car...what's that prove?? lol. In fact most everything I sell ships to another country and everything I sell here is shipped from another country.

    I am not saying everything is ok. I don't understand why you keep saying that. I know DOW is down, I know this. I am speaking of your fear that America will become a police state, the government will fall, all of that.

    We have a huge economic problem, I have said this many times, why do you keep saying I think everything is fine??
    This isnt the POLICE STATE Thread, and the GOVT will faulter on its debt the second our LENDERS realize we cant pay them back.

    Its already been said we will pay them back with inflated dollars.

    Im sorry but ill venture i do more business than you overseas
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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    So you are saying the government is inducing fear now to crash the country to control the people? lol
    YES

    The Democrats govern through keeping the people down, if you had read all these threads over the last 6 months you would see that.

    "Let me give you some money, and help you out, let me make you complacent and lazy so you dont want to work to get ahead"

    Thats the whole reason behind giving people WHO DONT PAY TAXES, TAX BREAKS.

    The Govt KNOWS that there is no way out of this, they got in the market in the 2000s and look where we are, what makes you think they are going to fix it?

    WHy arent they backing off, if you put your hand on a hot stove and it burns you, are you going to do it again and think you will get some different outcome?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd
    This isnt the POLICE STATE Thread, and the GOVT will faulter on its debt the second our LENDERS realize we cant pay them back.

    Its already been said we will pay them back with inflated dollars.

    Im sorry but ill venture i do more business than you overseas
    Yeah it's not a police state thread, but every thread you make is telling everyone how FUCKED we are and how much more fucked we are going to be.

    You can guess all you want, but if all you sell is car parts I can go ahead and say you aren't even close.

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    Why are we saving AIG and Citigroup as they are pumping out BILLION in QUARTERLY LOSSES.

    Why are we bailing out the AMerican AUtoMakers?

    Why are we propping up companies that dont make any money and fail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd
    YES

    The Democrats govern through keeping the people down, if you had read all these threads over the last 6 months you would see that.

    "Let me give you some money, and help you out, let me make you complacent and lazy so you dont want to work to get ahead"

    Thats the whole reason behind giving people WHO DONT PAY TAXES, TAX BREAKS.

    The Govt KNOWS that there is no way out of this, they got in the market in the 2000s and look where we are, what makes you think they are going to fix it?

    WHy arent they backing off, if you put your hand on a hot stove and it burns you, are you going to do it again and think you will get some different outcome?
    So deep down this is a democrat vs republican thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    So deep down this is a democrat vs republican thread
    No asshat, again you arent smart enough to see the point.

    Republicans have been just as bad. The Democrats just seem to speed up the process because they are for BIG GOVT
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    VtecFag, I am done, because you make a seperate post for everything you say and it makes it way too hard to simply reply, you are a worthless want to be business man and a "post whore" continue selling your "international" products and spreading fear to people because your dick is up your ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    VtecFag, I am done, because you make a seperate post for everything you say and it makes it way too hard to simply reply, you are a worthless want to be business man and a "post whore" continue selling your "international" products and spreading fear to people because your dick is up your ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd
    I love when someones true colors shine.
    Yeah my true colors of when in a debate all you do is post about 20 replies for every sentence I make lol, plus you get really fired up and continue posting thoughts in separate posts.

    My true colors are that I keep a positive mind, know my chances, know what's going on, and look at one thing at a time. I don't worry about theories and predictions.

    Answer one last question, why do you think you might need a gun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd
    Again its not whining, its not "the sky is falling" , its educating people that say "ehhh, we havent failed before we wont fail now"

    People that dont have a real grip on what is going on

    the way that you're educating is the wrong way though, these people that you are "educating" aren't going to understand what you are trying to do. most people in america like i said wont listen to you anyways because our whole entire country is afraid of doing something different. like i said before they are afraid of change. regardless of whether or not you post up that "not doom and gloom" guy, your reputation shows a close-minded individual that all he thinks about is the worst case scenario. i dont think i have heard one positive thing from you yet.

    if you are going to preach this stuff like you are, you need to have a positive aspect with it, a rebuttal other wise no one is going to continue to listen to you. i have said it before and i will say it again. WE did this to ourselves, we took the country that was supposed to be run by the people for the people and let big business take over with out doing anything about it. it was not their fault. they capitalized on opportunity. just like your capitalizing on many of the members on here and freaking them out cause you know the majority of them do not look up this stuff. and, because your so close minded many people that try to prove you wrong and or show you something different from a different side. you usually wont have anything of it and start to bash someone elses statement. your theories about things that are going on are getting old. yes, we all know we are in a rut but the fact that you as a person always post up negative aspects of a situation, doesnt show much for your knowledge besides going on the internet and looking up some stuff. i guarantee you that even the people that your getting this stuff from have two sides to a theory or story. thats what your supposed to do. doing it so once sided as you are in my opinion makes you look more non-intelligent then you try to act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    Yeah my true colors of when in a debate all you do is post about 20 replies for every sentence I make lol, plus you get really fired up and continue posting thoughts in separate posts.

    My true colors are that I keep a positive mind, know my chances, know what's going on, and look at one thing at a time. I don't worry about theories and predictions.

    Answer one last question, why do you think you might need a gun?
    I thought you were leaving, why waste time on VTECFAG and a wanna be business man?

    I assume you know more about me than i do

    The gun was in reference to an the economy. Id rather be prepared for a collapse, than go on thinking it is not possible.

    Again, something that went over your head i suppose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd
    I thought you were leaving, why waste time on VTECFAG and a wanna be business man?

    I assume you know more about me than i do

    The gun was in reference to an the economy. Id rather be prepared for a collapse, than go on thinking it is not possible.

    Again, something that went over your head i suppose

    one thing i have noticed about you kidd and a lot of the things that you post is very repetitive. you say many of the same things in a lot of your threads, in doing so im getting the idea that you are just trying to ram your thoughts into peoples heads. i have seen many things that you have posted over the past few months now and when the election was that were very repetitive. especially when you are trying to prove a point. your points dont hold water a lot of the time in my opinion cause you keep saying the same thing over and over again when someone tells you to show proof. its not proof its just reiterating your own thoughts in a different form.

    in all honesty this is why i dont pay attention to have the things that you post because of what i posted previously and how you post. you don't have true substance behind what you post besides what someone else said and not your beliefs. like i said in my previous post, even the best economists/professors/law makers are optimistic and have a good and bad side to the story. yours is just straight down with this and down with that talk.
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    ive posted alot, you just dont want to read it, and hear it.

    Theres at least 20 threads in here by me , and others, showing the eventual collapse that is coming.

    If im so wrong why is it on EVERY NEWS CHANNEL right now?

    Why is Bernake talking RIGHT NOW about it?

    Read this thread, get some perspective
    http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2397005
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd
    ive posted alot, you just dont want to read it, and hear it.

    Theres at least 20 threads in here by me , and others, showing the eventual collapse that is coming.

    If im so wrong why is it on EVERY NEWS CHANNEL right now?

    Why is Bernake talking RIGHT NOW about it?

    Read this thread, get some perspective
    http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2397005

    this is exactly what i am talking about man. i have posted multiple times in this thread, and you just seem to ignore what i have said and post something that again is repetitive. stating that we may be heading towards a collapse but so what? its our own fault. its not the governments its ours. why dont you pay attention to what people have said. i have said that countless times that we may or may not be headed towards a collapse. and if we are, then so be it, we need to fucking start over anyways, this country has become so corrupted and gotten away from the original principles that it was founded upon. if we as a country want to continue to succeed and be the big powerful nation that we are, we have to adapt to the times. if we dont we will fall and collapse.

    something is definitely broke and we definitely need to fix it. if we dont then we will fall. but what is the harm in that? that apparently is the only way that will make our country wake up. this economy was built to let everyone realize a dream. with the way things are going. no one is able to realize that dream. especially with big business in charge. if we let them keep running things it will continue to be this way and we as a country will not succeed and completely fall. we need to start over, if a collapse is what makes it happen, then thats what needs to happen. we will never get with the times the way that things are going. people are so set in their ways, like yourself, that one little change freaks them out and there not up for changing something and making it different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    So you are saying the government is inducing fear now to crash the country to control the people? lol
    do you not remember bush in sept and oct getting in front of congress and the american people saying that if we do not get the 700B in TARP money that the economy wouls crash, do you not remember that, well guess what they got the money, the taxpayers cant trace the money(no transparency) and it did not do a damn bit of good, as i stated aig is back asking for more money. if it was so important for the economy then why did it get worse, your theory please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    So deep down this is a democrat vs republican thread
    nope b/c i am neither, they all suck ass in my opiniaon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by preferredduck
    do you not remember bush in sept and oct getting in front of congress and the american people saying that if we do not get the 700B in TARP money that the economy wouls crash, do you not remember that, well guess what they got the money, the taxpayers cant trace the money(no transparency) and it did not do a damn bit of good, as i stated aig is back asking for more money. if it was so important for the economy then why did it get worse, your theory please.
    Maybe they thought the economy would crash. Maybe it didn't help, maybe they messed up? lol. These are just people like everyone else, look at the big picture, it's just life, we all have brains, we all have different decisions and outlooks, we all believe different things. There is a sun, there is wind, trees, etc. It's a big game just like the game LIFE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    Maybe they thought the economy would crash. Maybe it didn't help, maybe they messed up? lol. These are just people like everyone else, look at the big picture, it's just life, we all have brains, we all have different decisions and outlooks, we all believe different things. There is a sun, there is wind, trees, etc. It's a big game just like the game LIFE.
    i am looking at the big picture, we have spent 1.5 trillion dollars since september b/c of a recession and this is something we will have to pay for for the rest of our lives. i look at all views and don't jump to conclusions. i am a very positive person and no matter what happens i still will be positive. my father is retired military and he is even worried about things that are going on, and he has served his whole life to the gov't. i think the 1.5 trillion should have been divided up among the legal taxpayers in this country and given out. i know at least 80% of the people would pay off most of their debt and buy a new car, electronics etc, but instead the money was given to CEO's of failing companies to keep them afloat, and what does the taxpayer get, absolutely nothing.
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    I agree I think the people should have gotten some of the money.

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    we're just gonna have to live through it and deal with the cards.

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    Another 410B spending bill passed in the house today. This brings Obama's total bill for his 5 week old presidency to 1.2T. Damn I wish he was my employer. To this point, Obama has spent $1,428,572,428.57 per HOUR of his presidency. That is more than everyone on this board combined will make in their lifetime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    Another 410B spending bill passed in the house today. This brings Obama's total bill for his 5 week old presidency to 1.2T. Damn I wish he was my employer. To this point, Obama has spent $1,428,572,428.57 per HOUR of his presidency. That is more than everyone on this board combined will make in their lifetime.

    flush, ohh that was the sound of taxpayer money going down the drain. what did they say the 410B would be for? ti creat 50 jobs and make CEO's rich. if all the money that has spent was given to us taxpayers i would have no debt, a new car, some electronics, and even a chumk to put in a money market account or something. that would not just jump start the economy, but send 2,000,000,000 volts through it's heart, banks wouldn't be on the brink of disaster b/c most of their money owed would be paid back. it's called trickle up economics.
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    I'm not all that sure what the 410B is for I have only heard about it on the radio. I will have to do some research tomorrow or friday.

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    "WASHINGTON – The Democratic-controlled House pushed through a $410 billion measure Wednesday that boosted domestic programs, bristled with earmarks and chipped away at policies left behind by the Bush administration.

    The vote was 245-178, largely along party lines.

    Republicans assailed the measure as too costly — particularly on the heels of a $787 billion stimulus bill that President Barack Obama signed last week. But Democrats jabbed back.

    "The same people who drove the economy into the ditch are now complaining about the size of the tow truck," said Rep. James McGovern, D-Mass., pointing out the large increase in deficits that President George W. Bush and GOP-controlled Congresses amassed.

    From the GOP side, Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas said the legislation was "going to grow the government 8.3 percent ... but the family budget which has to pay for the federal budget only grew at 1.3 percent last year."

    The debate occurred one day after Obama told Congress in a prime time television address that he intends to cut deficits in half over the next four years, and one day before he was submitting tax and spending plans for the coming year.

    Officials said the president's first budget would call for a permanent tax cut of $400 for lower- and middle-class workers and $800 for families, a break modeled after the temporary provision in the economic stimulus legislation.

    He also will seek $634 billion over 10 years as a down payment on health care reform, the start of an effort aimed at providing coverage for an estimated 48 million uninsured people. Achieving that goal could cost much more.

    Obama also intends to ask lawmakers to approve a new cap-and-trade system of limits and pollution allowances, especially for industries such as utilities with coal burning power plants. The program would help reduce greenhouse gas emissions while generating revenue that could help finance other elements of an ambitious agenda that includes health care and education reform.

    The spending bill that cleared the House drew the support of 229 Democrats and 16 Republicans. There were 159 Republicans and 20 Democrats opposed.

    In a symbolic bow to the recession, Democrats included in the spending measure a prohibition on a cost-of-living increase for members of Congress for the year.

    Overall, the legislation would provided increases of roughly 8 percent for the federal agencies it covered, about $32 billion more than last year.

    The bill is intended to allow smooth functioning of the government through the Sept. 30 end of the fiscal year. The Senate has yet to vote on its version.

    After persuading lawmakers to keep earmarks off the stimulus bill, Obama made no such attempt on the first non-emergency spending measure of his presidency. The result was that lawmakers claimed billions in federal funds for pet projects — a total of 8,570 earmarks at a cost of $7.7 billion, according to Taxpayers for Common Sense. Majority Democrats declined to provide a number of earmarks, but said the cost was far smaller, $3.8 billion, 5 percent less than a year ago.

    Among the earmarks was one sponsored by Rep. Howard Berman, D-Calif., who secured $200,000 for a "tattoo removal violence outreach program" in Los Angeles. Aides said the money would pay for a tattoo removal machine that could help gang members or others shed visible signs of their past, and anyone benefiting would be required to perform community service.

    Rep. Mark Kirk, R-Ill., said the bill included at least a dozen earmarks for clients of PMA Group, a lobbying company now at the center of a federal corruption investigation.

    "It's simply not responsible to allow a soon-to-be-criminally indicted lobbying firm to win funding, all borrowed, in this bill," he said. No charges have been filed against the firm or its principals, although the company's offices were raided earlier this month, and it has announced plans to disband by the end of the month.

    Federal prosecutors are investigating PMA Group's founder and president, Paul Magliochetti, who is a former top aide to Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., chairman of the House Appropriations subcommittee that funds defense programs.

    In remarks on the House floor, Republican leader John Boehner urged Obama to veto the legislation, citing earmarks.

    At the White House, press secretary Robert Gibbs responded only in general terms whether that was possible.

    "There is great concern in this building and by the president about earmarks," Gibbs said. "Without having looked specifically at a piece of legislation, I'm hesitant to throw out that four-letter word, `Veto.'"

    After eight years without control of the White House, congressional Democrats also used the legislation to target several policies of former President Bush.

    Under the bill, Mexican-licensed trucks are banned from operating outside commercial zones along the border with the United States. The Teamsters union, which supported Obama's election last year, had sought the move. The Bush administration backed a pilot program to permit up to 500 trucks from 100 Mexican motor carriers access to U.S. roads.

    Bush administration restrictions on travel to Cuba were loosened in the legislation, to permit more frequent visits and expand the list of family members permitted to make trips to see relatives on the Communist nation-island.

    Rep. Doc Hastings, R-Wash., took aim at a provision that he said would vastly broaden the government's ability to invoke the threat of climate change to halt economic development. "Most all of the shovel-ready projects on the trillion-dollar stimulus bill would in fact be at risk," he said.

    Nominally, the provision halts implementation of Bush-era regulations that reduce the input of federal scientists in endangered species decisions and block the law from being used to fight global warming. One of the regulations would allow oil and gas drilling to continue near the habitat of polar bears — a threatened species — without increased protections.

    Rep. David Obey, D-Wis., and chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, said the legislation would merely give the new administration 60 days to decide the fate of the two regulations.

    Democrats also inserted a provision into the bill to end a program that allows students in the District of Columbia to use federal funds to attend private schools of their choice. Boehner, who helped establish the program as part of a political bargain several years ago, called the move "hideous." "

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    I mentioned this in another thread. I need to do some more research on it before I get too far into it.

    I do find it funny that the Dems are now saying "we can spend all we want because Bush did" whenever they are calle dout on it. At the same time, they always seem to forget that it took Bush 8 years to rack up 5T in extra debt and they are on a pace to rack up that much in 6 months.

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