Obama.........

[stephen]

Forgive me, i didn't see where he said anything to me, maybe i skipped his post, and i apologize for that, but don't lump me in with the lower percentile crowd. You don't know me at all.

i apologize for not being clear...that post was more meant for everyone who thinks "obama got into office because he's black." you did mention something along those lines, hence, why i included your post.

I was referring to the blacks who have never voted before and did so only because a black man was running. I know about the whole not being in with the conservative side.

it doesn't matter...whether they voted before OR NOT. dude...even in the 1930s, blacks were still voting atleast 70% democrat. how many NEW BLACK VOTERS do you think existed during that time? here...i'll just throw a date out there...1964. in 64 only 58% of the black population voted, and 82% voted democrat. how many of those voters do you think were "NEW VOTERS?" the point is, it doesn't matter if the voter is new or not...the trend has existed long before you and i were born...BLACKS VOTE DEMOCRAT...PERIOD.

100% of that "less than 50%" is a big fucking chunk. Honestly i don't understand what you're saying here. you do realize had they not voted mccain would be in office today. Obama didn't win by a landslide.

100% of less than 50% percent still isn't enough to win...my point being IT WASN'T ONLY BLACK PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR OBAMA. i think the highest state only represents 38% of the black vote in the electoral college. ONCE AGAIN, this point wasn't made directly at you (more at the dude who suggested someone go to school and learn about the electoral college), but I am addressing you since you opted to respond. obama didn't win by a landslide??? dude, did you watch the election? polls were rolling in at like 8pm and it was over by 11pm (EASTERN TIME)....that's not a landslide??? please, explain that to me...

Bullshit, how come it's the younger generations of blacks using the fools dialect and the older generations shaking their heads in disappointment? It's rare to hear an older black man or woman talking like an idiot today. It's also a FACT that those older black generations had a harder time getting a proper education but they seem to have pulled through and admirably fought and got what was their right to have as far as education is concerned. The younger generations "OUR" generation have had absolutely every opportunity for basic and higher education, some would say an unfair amount of opportunity due to specific schools and scholarships. yet it's them walking around like retards using ridiculous slang and accent. Why is this? some form of white conspiracy to use freedom against the "people" ?

lol, ok...so you know the origins of "ebonics?" i tell you what...before i even waste my time responding, how about you do a little more research outside of just "all the old black folks i know." maybe you should go watch ALL OF roots or something. you really think some young hip hop head just woke up and was like "i'm going to make a new slang language!" if you're referring to snoop and his "izzle" and e-40 with his language...then you're right, but we both know that's not what you're talking about. BESIDES, RAP WAS INTRODUCED IN THE 70's.

here...think about it a little more logically. every country & continent in this world has different dialects/slang/"ebonics"/etc. that didn't just come from some music junkie who thought it'd be cool. that shit is born into people and passed down from generation to generation. let's take that lousiana & south carolina "geechie" slang. lil wayne didn't make that shit up. it came from the french & "creole" who came to this country YEARS AGO.

your response to this portion explains to a lot of people as to what is wrong with people in america. black people don't understand and/or can't get control over the shit that's happened in history...and A LOT of white people (like yourself) are just oblivious to it. you think slavery was just whips, chains, cotton, boats, and africa. there's a lot more to it, a lot more that you and MANY others haven't taken the time to understand. like i said though...go watch roots, the great debaters, secret life of bees, ANY OLD TIME BASED "BLACK MOVIE," then spin your least favorite "thug" song...i promise, the similarities are insane...

i almost forgot...in response to education...that's just the root cause of the poor english dialect. it has nothing to do with what the kids are doing these days. lol...this is one of those moments where i'm itching to say "you don't know what it's like to be black." you take a black individual, put them in a school where they speak "proper" english, and guess how their peers, friends, and families will respond to them...."you talk like a white boy/girl." don't take anything i say personal...you're an intelligent individual, but this type of shit isn't the stuff you learn in school...these types of "debates/discussions" are a result of books AND REAL LIFE.

[DarwinsA32]

[QUOTE=stephen]/QUOTE]

i apologize for not being clear...that post was more meant for everyone who thinks "obama got into office because he's black." you did mention something along those lines, hence, why i included your post.



it doesn't matter...whether they voted before OR NOT. dude...even in the 1930s, blacks were still voting atleast 70% democrat. how many NEW BLACK VOTERS do you think existed during that time? here...i'll just throw a date out there...1964. in 64 only 58% of the black population voted, and 82% voted democrat. how many of those voters do you think were "NEW VOTERS?" the point is, it doesn't matter if the voter is new or not...the trend has existed long before you and i were born...BLACKS VOTE DEMOCRAT...PERIOD.

And we all know why. For some reason Liberals have the stigma as "for the people" and also are more prone to give hand outs.

99.9% of poor people, and gay people vote democrat too. Period.


100% of less than 50% percent still isn't enough to win...my point being IT WASN'T ONLY BLACK PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR OBAMA. i think the highest state only represents 38% of the black vote in the electoral college. ONCE AGAIN, this point wasn't made directly at you (more at the dude who suggested someone go to school and learn about the electoral college), but I am addressing you since you opted to respond. obama didn't win by a landslide??? dude, did you watch the election? polls were rolling in at like 8pm and it was over by 11pm (EASTERN TIME)....that's not a landslide??? please, explain that to me...


54-46 isn't a slaughter in my book.


lol, ok...so you know the origins of "ebonics?" i tell you what...before i even waste my time responding, how about you do a little more research outside of just "all the old black folks i know." maybe you should go watch ALL OF roots or something. you really think some young hip hop head just woke up and was like "i'm going to make a new slang language!" if you're referring to snoop and his "izzle" and e-40 with his language...then you're right, but we both know that's not what you're talking about. BESIDES, RAP WAS INTRODUCED IN THE 70's.


here...think about it a little more logically. every country & continent in this world has different dialects/slang/"ebonics"/etc. that didn't just come from some music junkie who thought it'd be cool. that shit is born into people and passed down from generation to generation. let's take that lousiana & south carolina "geechie" slang. lil wayne didn't make that shit up. it came from the french & "creole" who came to this country YEARS AGO.

your response to this portion explains to a lot of people as to what is wrong with people in america. black people don't understand and/or can't get control over the shit that's happened in history...and A LOT of white people (like yourself) are just oblivious to it. you think slavery was just whips, chains, cotton, boats, and africa. there's a lot more to it, a lot more that you and MANY others haven't taken the time to understand. like i said though...go watch roots, the great debaters, secret life of bees, ANY OLD TIME BASED "BLACK MOVIE," then spin your least favorite "thug" song...i promise, the similarities are insane...

I haven't said anything about slavery, nor do I claim to be an expert.


i almost forgot...in response to education...that's just the root cause of the poor english dialect. it has nothing to do with what the kids are doing these days. lol...this is one of those moments where i'm itching to say "you don't know what it's like to be black." you take a black individual, put them in a school where they speak "proper" english, and guess how their peers, friends, and families will respond to them...."you talk like a white boy/girl." don't take anything i say personal...you're an intelligent individual, but this type of shit isn't the stuff you learn in school...these types of "debates/discussions" are a result of books AND REAL LIFE.[

The whole blacks demonizing blacks for using proper English is all i was referring to as far as the whole "MODERN black vernacular" that's being used by our generation. There is no reason not to stand up to being called a tom and say "fuck you, I'm not talking like a white I'm talking like a respectable human". I can't stand hearing the words tom, house ******, and other insults of the sort tossed around, it's so ignorant, insulting one for rising above whats expected. This is a response to this and the paragraph 2 up and 3 up. And i'm not talking about the creole and southern spin, Simply the "Skreet" spin, no reason for kids that live around my area specifically to be spitting that shit out.

[DarwinsA32]

i apologize for not being clear...that post was more meant for everyone who thinks "obama got into office because he's black." you did mention something along those lines, hence, why i included your post.



it doesn't matter...whether they voted before OR NOT. dude...even in the 1930s, blacks were still voting atleast 70% democrat. how many NEW BLACK VOTERS do you think existed during that time? here...i'll just throw a date out there...1964. in 64 only 58% of the black population voted, and 82% voted democrat. how many of those voters do you think were "NEW VOTERS?" the point is, it doesn't matter if the voter is new or not...the trend has existed long before you and i were born...BLACKS VOTE DEMOCRAT...PERIOD.

And we all know why. For some reason Liberals have the stigma as "for the people" and also are more prone to give hand outs.

99.9% of poor people, and gay people vote democrat too. Period.


100% of less than 50% percent still isn't enough to win...my point being IT WASN'T ONLY BLACK PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR OBAMA. i think the highest state only represents 38% of the black vote in the electoral college. ONCE AGAIN, this point wasn't made directly at you (more at the dude who suggested someone go to school and learn about the electoral college), but I am addressing you since you opted to respond. obama didn't win by a landslide??? dude, did you watch the election? polls were rolling in at like 8pm and it was over by 11pm (EASTERN TIME)....that's not a landslide??? please, explain that to me...


54-46 isn't a slaughter in my book.


lol, ok...so you know the origins of "ebonics?" i tell you what...before i even waste my time responding, how about you do a little more research outside of just "all the old black folks i know." maybe you should go watch ALL OF roots or something. you really think some young hip hop head just woke up and was like "i'm going to make a new slang language!" if you're referring to snoop and his "izzle" and e-40 with his language...then you're right, but we both know that's not what you're talking about. BESIDES, RAP WAS INTRODUCED IN THE 70's.


here...think about it a little more logically. every country & continent in this world has different dialects/slang/"ebonics"/etc. that didn't just come from some music junkie who thought it'd be cool. that shit is born into people and passed down from generation to generation. let's take that lousiana & south carolina "geechie" slang. lil wayne didn't make that shit up. it came from the french & "creole" who came to this country YEARS AGO.

your response to this portion explains to a lot of people as to what is wrong with people in america. black people don't understand and/or can't get control over the shit that's happened in history...and A LOT of white people (like yourself) are just oblivious to it. you think slavery was just whips, chains, cotton, boats, and africa. there's a lot more to it, a lot more that you and MANY others haven't taken the time to understand. like i said though...go watch roots, the great debaters, secret life of bees, ANY OLD TIME BASED "BLACK MOVIE," then spin your least favorite "thug" song...i promise, the similarities are insane...

I haven't said anything about slavery, nor do I claim to be an expert.


i almost forgot...in response to education...that's just the root cause of the poor english dialect. it has nothing to do with what the kids are doing these days. lol...this is one of those moments where i'm itching to say "you don't know what it's like to be black." you take a black individual, put them in a school where they speak "proper" english, and guess how their peers, friends, and families will respond to them...."you talk like a white boy/girl." don't take anything i say personal...you're an intelligent individual, but this type of shit isn't the stuff you learn in school...these types of "debates/discussions" are a result of books AND REAL LIFE.[

The whole blacks demonizing blacks for using proper English is all i was referring to as far as the whole "MODERN black vernacular" that's being used by our generation. There is no reason not to stand up to being called a tom and say "fuck you, I'm not talking like a white I'm talking like a respectable human". I can't stand hearing the words tom, house ******, and other insults of the sort tossed around, it's so ignorant, insulting one for rising above whats expected. This is a response to this and the paragraph 2 up and 3 up. And i'm not talking about the creole and southern spin, Simply the "Skreet" spin, no reason for kids that live around my area specifically to be spitting that shit out.

[stephen]

And we all know why. For some reason Liberals have the stigma as "for the people" and also are more prone to give hand outs.

99.9% of poor people, and gay people vote democrat too. Period.

lol...ok...so now it's NOT because there was a black candidate, BUT because blacks just want hand outs?

54-46 isn't a slaughter in my book.

365 electorals to 173....that's more than DOUBLE.

ok...54-46 isn't a slaughter...but we're talking about how many MILLIONS of people? a difference of more than 8 million. here's a nice figure for you (just to stay on topic)...the black population is only 12.7% of THE TOTAL population. if you add up the total number of votes that obama and mccain received (just those TWO) and take 12% of that number (that's being extremely generous...counting children and those who CAN'T vote...THE WHOLE BLACK POPULATION)...you get 15million. you STILL BELIEVE THE BLACK VOTE IS WHAT GOT OBAMA INTO OFFICE??? oh wait...i forgot...the blacks just needed a brother to give a handout, so that HAD TO BE THE CASE...RIGHT!?!

I haven't said anything about slavery, nor do I claim to be an expert.

you made it seem like my relation of the current "black slang" to slavery days was far fetched. my only point was to prove how wrong you were.

The whole blacks demonizing blacks for using proper English is all i was referring to as far as the whole "MODERN black vernacular" that's being used by our generation. There is no reason not to stand up to being called a tom and say "fuck you, I'm not talking like a white I'm talking like a respectable human". I can't stand hearing the words tom, house ******, and other insults of the sort tossed around, it's so ignorant, insulting one for rising above whats expected. This is a response to this and the paragraph 2 up and 3 up. And i'm not talking about the creole and southern spin, Simply the "Skreet" spin, no reason for kids that live around my area specifically to be spitting that shit out.

you're right...there's no reason for ANYONE to be demonized for being educated. the problem is, that's what plagues this country. black and white people are responsible for it...not just one color alone. i only made reference to it to further prove my point, that "poor education & english" is the result of how the early black people in america were BRED. you don't have to agree with the lingo/way of living in order to understand how it was derived. it's very simple...THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURE = SLAVERY....NOT AFRICA.

-note- for those of you who are "afrocentric" i don't mean any disrespect.