Obama to implement mandatory community service for students?

[Alan®]

when is the last time has someone been doing community service doing road construction...lol Thats a skilled job, community service is some littls odd end jobs, cleanin up a road,park, school.. stuff that gets looked over, that needs to be done. I know students that do community service at the YMCA, with younger kids. its a good thing..i dont see y you want to make it sound like someone is trying to get over on us.
A few months ago you would talk about handouts this and handouts that, and now there is a proposal that has some good in it, and helps out both ends the community and the student.

. You would have to refresh my memory on any "handouts" i have been in favor of considering I hated the Bailout and I hate this. My point is He has said he will be able to pay for everything he wants to do.

If we take your argument than after 100 hours there would be even more a tax burden on us to pay for this.

[JITB]

. You would have to refresh my memory on any "handouts" i have been in favor of considering I hated the Bailout and I hate this. My point is He has said he will be able to pay for everything he wants to do.

If we take your argument than after 100 hours there would be even more a tax burden on us to pay for this.

i meant you were against so called "handouts" and this is a fair helping hand, with a purpose, that isnt just a freebie.

[Alan®]

i meant you were against so called "handouts" and this is a fair helping hand, with a purpose, that isnt just a freebie.

Oh ok I got you. While this is a GREAT idea in principle there would still be a LARGE portion left on the tax payers to come up with.

This can't be denied.

[JITB]

Oh ok I got you. While this is a GREAT idea in principle there would still be a LARGE portion left on the tax payers to come up with.

This can't be denied.

Its part of a bigger picture to me, you have to start from the ground up in order to move forward. The US isnt gonna go anywhere if noone is getting a education. And id rather pay more taxes on an investment in our education system, than most things that we pay for now. The future in our youth to me isnt lookin to good, education wise....hopefully im wrong. Im not too confident in our new generation.. maybe thats just my age showing..lol I think they are smart enough, but just dont have the drive or motivation. And i hate to sound like a broken record..but i do believe alot of our youth has been motivated to look up to someone other than musicians/sports players/actors, and that there is another way to be successful.

[Alan®]

Its part of a bigger picture to me, you have to start from the ground up in order to move forward. The US isnt gonna go anywhere if noone is getting a education. And id rather pay more taxes on an investment in our education system, than most things that we pay for now. The future in our youth to me isnt lookin to good, education wise....hopefully im wrong. Im not too confident in our new generation.. maybe thats just my age showing..lol I think they are smart enough, but just dont have the drive or motivation. And i hate to sound like a broken record..but i do believe alot of our youth has been motivated to look up to someone other than musicians/sports players/actors, and that there is another way to be successful.

You make good points. I'm just up in the air on this.

[AirMax95]

Actually i think that would do alot for our youth, and i applaud him for trying to get people to take pride in their community.

The only problem i have with it is the govt requiring you to do it, thats kinda shaky ground.

Perhaps amend it to say if you do it you get more credits, or something, maybe a tax credit, maybe make it a qualification that you have to do to get the HOPE type programs out there?

Agreed, mandatory wouldn't work, lol.

After further reading their complete plan, I like it even more. Hopefully, the participants can get their friends/family/coworkers/etc to come out and help also. The Tax credit is an awesome incentive, and I'd hope that people will volunteer for the reason more than the $.

[jwrape]

Ok, so he reduces tuition in exchange for community service, I totally can be on board with that, but why make retired 55+ folks do community service? That makes no sense. They worked all their lives to only go back to work?

[JITB]

Ok, so he reduces tuition in exchange for community service, I totally can be on board with that, but why make retired 55+ folks do community service? That makes no sense. They worked all their lives to only go back to work?

Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.

Most retired folks work small part time jobs anyway and or volunteer to stay busy. People who have worked hard all their life have a hard time staying all day watching tv.... but i dont really understand that phrase about the older people either..lol

[Bridged]

He is a politician dude don't trust him too much.

I worked for the Government for 5+ years. Trust me, I know about that alot more than you and have seen it first hand, if you knew half the shit I knew about you would be in the UK or another place right now. An with that exp. I think he will try hard and not lie about the important stuff. Trust is what we need right now. Will he? Who knows. I think he will though.