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    Default The referendums... #1 #2 and #3 how did you vote?

    How did you guys vote on the referendums that were on the ballot this time?

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    Summary of Proposed Constitutional Amendments
    Quote Originally Posted by GA Sec'y of State: Elections Division
    Pursuant to requirements of the Georgia Constitution, Secretary of State Karen C. Handel, Attorney General Thurbert E. Baker, and Legislative Counsel Sewell R. Brumby hereby provide the summaries of the proposed constitutional amendments that will appear on the November 4, 2008, General Election ballot for consideration by the people of Georgia:

    Amendment 1
    To encourage the preservation of Georgia's forests through a conservation use property tax reduction program.

    House Resolution No. 1276
    Resolution Act No. 702
    Ga. L. 2008, p. 1209


    “Shall the Constitution of Georgia be amended so as to provide that the General Assembly by general law shall encourage the preservation, conservation, and protection of the state's forests through the special assessment and taxation of certain forest lands and assistance grants to local government?"

    ( ) YES ( ) NO

    This proposal directs the General Assembly to provide for a new method of ad valorem tax assessment of forest land conservation use property. Such property will include only tracts of forest land which exceed 200 acres except where the General Assembly has provided by general law for exceptions to the 200 acre limit under certain circumstances. Subject to certain qualifications, an owner of such property will be able to enter into a covenant to restrict the use of the land to current use; and the land will then be taxed according to a formula based on current use, annual productivity, and real property sales data. A breach of the covenant will result in a government recapturing the tax savings and may result in other appropriate penalties.

    The General Assembly is directed to appropriate funds to local government to partially offset any loss of local revenue.

    The General Assembly has enacted a law to implement this constitutional amendment. This law will become effective only if the constitutional amendment is ratified by the voters. This law is 2008 HB 1211; Act No. 464, found at Ga. Laws 2008, p. 297.

    A copy of this entire proposed constitutional amendment is on file in the office of the judge of the probate court and is available for public inspection.

    Amendment 2
    To authorize local school districts to use tax funds for community redevelopment purposes.

    Senate Resolution No. 996
    Resolution Act No. 777
    Ga. L. 2008, p. 1211


    “Shall the Constitution of Georgia be amended so as to authorize community redevelopment and authorize counties, municipalities, and local boards of education to use tax funds for redevelopment purposes and programs?"

    ( ) YES ( ) NO

    This proposal affirms that the General Assembly may authorize counties, municipalities, and housing authorities to carry out community redevelopment.

    The proposal also revises the Constitution's provisions relative to redevelopment powers and tax allocation bonds. As revised by the proposed amendment, the current provisions for community redevelopment, after providing for such powers, will contain revised provisions relative to tax allocation bonds. In general, tax allocation bonds are government borrowings which are repaid specifically from future growth in the property tax digest of an area under redevelopment.

    Under the proposal a general law will be able to authorize the use of county, municipal, and school tax funds, or any combination thereof, to fund redevelopment purposes and programs, including repayment of tax allocation bonds. The general law may provide for such use of tax funds without regard to whether the local government approved such use before January 1, 2009. No county, municipal, or school tax funds may be used for such purposes and programs without approval by the applicable local governing body.

    With respect to school taxes only, such taxes may be used for redevelopment purposes and programs only if: (1) they have been pledged for repayment of tax allocation bonds which have been judicially validated (approved by a court for issuance); or (2) such use is authorized by general law after January 1, 2009.

    A copy of this entire proposed amendment is on file in the office of the judge of the probate court and is available for public inspection.

    Amendment 3
    To authorize the creation of special Infrastructure Development Districts providing infrastructure to underserved areas.

    Senate Resolution No. 309
    Resolution Act No. 373
    Ga. L. 2007, p. 775


    “Shall the Constitution of Georgia be amended so as to authorize the General Assembly to provide by general law for the creation and comprehensive regulation of infrastructure development districts for the provision of infrastructure as authorized by local governments?"

    ( ) YES ( ) NO

    This proposal authorizes the General Assembly by general law to provide for the creation and regulation of infrastructure development districts. The purpose of such districts will be for the creation, provision, and expansion of such infrastructure services and facilities as may be provided for by general law.

    Counties and municipalities affected by the creation of infrastructure development districts will have the authority to approve creation of such districts. The general law providing for the creation of the districts will provide for the establishment of an administrative or governing body for the districts. Such administrative or governing bodies will be able to impose and collect fees and assessments within each district and to incur debt according to powers and limits set by statute.

    The General Assembly has enacted a law to provide for the creation and regulation of infrastructure development districts. This law will become effective only if the constitutional amendment is ratified by the voters. This law is 2007 SB 200; Act No. 372, found at Ga. Laws 2007, p. 739.
    #1 - I voted for because I really think we need to protect forests in GA. I don't think a property tax incentive is quite enough to protect greenspaces/wetlands/etc from development, but its better than nothing.

    #2 - I voted against this one. I really don't think school boards should be involved with community redevelopment. The plan basically seems like a shortcut to gentrification to me. It is designed to create new development that will raise revenue for local school boards, which is basically the idea behind Atlantic Station.

    #3 - I voted against this one. The idea of a privatized district that can levy its own taxes independent of local government and can have unrestrained development in ways that may not be sustained by the resources/infrastructure of the State/County is just scary.

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    where are the results for these?

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    I voted for 1, against 2 and 3.

    There was also a vote here in Paulding to remove the sunday sales laws that I voted for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nittanys1
    where are the results for these?
    1 pass with flying colors
    2 and 3 failed miserably

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    http://projects.ajc.com/election-res...al-amendments/

    According to the AJC:

    1 = passed 68/32

    2 = passed 52/48

    3 = not passed 52/48

    2 out of 3 ain't bad, I guess.

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    great, not only are my federal taxes going to go through the roof, so are my property taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    great, not only are my federal taxes going to go through the roof, so are my property taxes.
    Are you saying that because of amendment 2 passing? I agree, the school boards are going to re-develop GA into one big country club now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender
    Are you saying that because of amendment 2 passing? I agree, the school boards are going to re-develop GA into one big country club now.
    Yes, I am saying that because Amendment 2 passed.

    GA already has one of the worst school systems in the country, now they want to take school tax money, which is aquired through property taxes, and use it for community redevelopment. Why is an already inept school district moving into new ventures that have nothing to do with education? Redeveloping communities with my money? You have to be kidding me.

    Those communities are shitholes for a reason, no amount of my money is going to change that.

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    I only voted for one.

    2 is the biggest failure, our schools are already choking on lower budgets. To suggest that they should be involved in "community development" using money that they are already low on is STUPID. How about we step up the level of EDUCATION in our shitty schools first? Seems almost to simple for our government to understand......

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpine_xj
    2 is the biggest failure, our schools are already choking on lower budgets. To suggest that they should be involved in "community development" using money that they are already low on is STUPID. .
    x2 and reps

    Here's a letter I read the other day in support of amendment 2. I don't agree with the guy at all but he does make some good points:

    http://flagpole.com/News/Letters/Ame...Two/2008-10-29

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    I voted for 1, against 2 and 3.
    Same here....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender
    x2 and reps

    Here's a letter I read the other day in support of amendment 2. I don't agree with the guy at all but he does make some good points:

    http://flagpole.com/News/Letters/Ame...Two/2008-10-29

    There is alot of good that can come from that type of inititive, but tax increases for schools districts that then go and spend that money on something other than schools is simply wrong. This amendment is a way for local govts to hide the real destination for these funds. There is no reason for these funds to be funneled through the school district and the new beaurocracy that it will create.

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