a lot of inside government officals have quit as a result of something they know about the war. and there has even been a few documentary videos produced detailing the inside process (given to them by these inside officals) about the leadup to war. A good one was made by PBS a while back.
YES
YES... Someone had to finish it.. was going on way for to long.. 9-11 was a sign of what wouldve/couldve been. I bet if the DEM were in power at the time NOTHING wouldve happen. And the US would be a bigger target now....
There was a reason the DEM supported the war ANYWAYS... They had all the chairs in house... =/
To bad The DEMOCRATS are now in FULL power... Its going to be worst when the Republicans take over office again in 2012...
DEMOCRATS ='s JOKE.
If we had more educated people in this country, I'm willing to bet the outcome of this election would be different and maybe supported more as to why the war happened...
hell yeah Pickle that was prior to the Prelude, Skyline and Evo, LOL.....
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Fuck yea! We should kill everyone in the middle east because they are very scary IRL, and because one tiny sect of people amongst their enormous population acted out and did something crazy to hurt us. Therefore we should invade unrelated countries, topped unrelated governments, installing governments friendly, and loyal only to us, and get down to business. (See: Imperialism)
This is a little off topic but, if this is the way you feel, do you think we should have invaded North Korea?Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
Dayumn Mike. I am impressed..Here is one post I have seen that is actually correct..If I could add, another reason for us to go to war with IRAQ is also PETROLEUM. Why do you think the U.S. backs Isreal? Religion? What is religion, it is just another political party in reality.
Imagine the whole middle eastern area without Isreal ? I can't even imagine how much gas it would be if OPEC have a jolly day without ISREAL.
you mean do you think we should invade NK? no, not at the present time because i think Kim Jong Il is all smoke and mirrors. His time is coming to an end. We have troops in South Korea to make sure those people are protected. We are keeping an eye on them.
but if tomorrow we can confirm they have a NUKE and its functioning, yes, we should bomb them back to the stoneage.
We cannot afford for NK or Iran to have a nuke.
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its funny how people talk about a nukes and iran. Basically the ONLY way to have nuclear electrical power is to get it from America or do it yourself. And apartently doing it yourself is illegal in the eyes of America because America doesnt get money or hold their hand.
They will know they they electrical power technology was developed and made in Iran and not America like 70% of the reactors out there. We offered (demanded) to assist them in this project of theirs but they refused.
Its just like looking on a Craftsmen wrench and seeing that it was "made in America". But on a whole bigger level. They developed and launched their own satelites which they are really proud of. They also made 2 new ships this week which they are proud of buliding themselves.
But seriously, they are way more scared of america than america should be of it.
Nope.
I don't believe that bush went to war cus of 9/11. I think that bush can care less about what happened on 9/11. But yet, i could sit here and type alot of reasons why i think he did go to war, and play politics with you guys all night, but i wont because it will end up no where just like the war in iraq.
My 2 cents.
Most of you are probably saying things because you heard it from the TV. I am assuming that 99% of you haven't read one document about the Iraq war. Did you read the official document let out by the CIA, stating the reasons why terrorists would attack us? I'm assuming not. However:
Watch this Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DggGZqYebrQ
Read the documents for yourself, dont take people's word for it. This man in the video is a respected Congressmen who was running for President (R). He is a Doctor, and has been married to the same woman for 50 years. Definitely a good man.
Do not listen to those people assuming and stating "facts" like they know what they are talking about, however, listen to those who actually do their studies and have proof of their source(s).
Yes. Youtube has the official truth from people who have not divorced, so its true!
I would most def still have invaded Iraq.
...why would you invade iraq?
durka durka bitches that's why
No, they're a sovereign nation and we should have respected that. There are human rights abuses in Venezuela and an abundance of oil, so why not invade them too? We know they assist with the illegal drug trade and Hugo Chavez has purposely aligned himself with enemies of the US.
There was an intelligence failure due to immense executive pressure on the intelligence community to produce results, so in that regard we were not lied to, it was just bad intel. There could have been WMDs, Saddam did massacre his own people, but we've put up with dictators for the entire history of America and very seldom have we ever actually invaded. So now we replaced a predictable dictator with an unstable democracy and set the grounds for decades of western resentment in Iraq.
America needs to look at the history of our Middle Eastern relations and see that we havent been doing anything right for the last 40yrs. There's a reason that Iran hates us and a reason that Saddam hated us and its more than just a system of governance. Its a whole cultural cleavage where Arabs are opposed to western intervention in their domestic affairs.
When the CIA overthrew the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT of Iran and enstated the Shah, we did it because the Shah was staunchly anticommunist and pro-West. He was a pawn of the West and secured Western OIL INTERESTS in the region. He gave us a voice in OPEC but then created resentment that led to the Iran Hostage Crisis and the revolution propping up Ayotollah Khomeini. We dont want democracy in the region, we just want a pro-Western voice in the region.
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I think it's funny that people say Iraq is going to turn into a fully functioning democracy with an active economy because of this war. The country is in the shitter right now, which many fail to realize, and it will be for a long time. We need to gtfo out the middle east and never go back. We can never understand those people, and we never will. Their way of life is so totally different, we cant just "americanize" them like good ole' W wants us to.
If we hadnt done so than we would be payin 5 dolla a gallon foo
At the time yes. Now, no. Too many things to consider now that the dust has settled. There were a thousand more subtle ways to deal with 9/11 but we went big in the outrage and look where it landed us. The Patriot Act... A president who could institue martial law at the drop of a hat and a current one with gun banning on the brain. Emotionally driven reactions ftl.
Damn! I didnt notice how old this thread was! me=owned
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Such an awesome post to bump a 2 month old thread for.
Such an awesome post to bump a 2 month old thread for.
Ripe with well thought out reasoning and all.
I said yes..but it wouldn't have been so much an invasion as it would've been us bombing the fuck out of them..
1.Nuke Iraq
2.Take their oil
3. Profit
Yes, see post 17.
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