No disrespect don't know what to call it cause I don't consider it a campaign ad.
Obama infomercial thing
No disrespect don't know what to call it cause I don't consider it a campaign ad.
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by AlanŽ
I call it useless.
its on fox right now...
and the point in you making this thread was?
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its on all the major networks besides abc right now. i guess abc asked too much lol.
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Barack could pay me to show his ad at my house and more people would see it than if he put it on ABC. I wouldn't pay ABC either...
Why is any other thread in this section created? Jesus christ.
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lol, i just know that is is on fox...cuz when it is done the baseball game will start up!!!
it's not CNN either just to let ya'll know.
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Ok. it's over
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uh huh
what did ya'll think.
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I thought it was good. It's not gonna change my vote, but it was nicely put together and done. Definitely not gonna hurt him.
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Agreed. Although how does he want to rebuild the military? I'm looking for the info on his website but cant find it.
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama's 30-minute TV ad, which ran simultaneously on broadcast and cable networks at 8 p.m. ET Wednesday, is muscle-flexing that has little precedent, a campaign advertising expert said.
Sen. Barack Obama aired a 30-minute campaign ad Wednesday night.
"It's evidence, if you needed any, that the Obama campaign has more money than there is ad time left to buy," said Evan Tracey, director of the Campaign Media Analysis Group. "This is flexing the muscles."
Tracey estimates that it will cost the campaign "in the $4 to 5 million range -- at a minimum, $3.5 million."
But, he said, spending the money is a "no-brainer" for the Democratic presidential hopeful.
"The strategic brilliance of this for Obama is that he is going to consume about 24 hours of the news cycle," Tracey said. "It boxes [John] McCain in, takes the oxygen out of the room."
There is so much buzz surrounding the infomercial -- which was announced about two weeks ago -- that on Tuesday, Time magazine's Mark Halperin put the ad's two editors on his daily list of the "five most important people in American politics not running for president." Watch more on the Obama campaign ad buy ģ
Those editors, Erik Smith and Mark Putnam, were "still in an edit room cutting" the 30-minute piece Tuesday when the list was published, Halperin said.
The ad ran at 8 p.m. ET on CBS, NBC, MSNBC, Fox, BET, TV One and Univision, the Spanish-language network, six days before Election Day.
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CNN declined to run the spot, and talks between ABC and the Obama campaign fell apart.
"We were approached by the Obama campaign and declined their request," said Sal Petruzzi, senior vice president for public relations of Turner Broadcasting, CNN's parent company.
"We did not want to pre-empt our programming lineup with a 30-minute spot. We would rather use our air to continue to cover the campaign, candidates and issues like we always do, from all points of view with the best political team on television."
An ABC spokeswoman declined to comment about the network's talks with the Obama campaign.
"As a matter of policy we don't comment about clients with whom we are doing business," said Julie Hoover of ABC. The Obama campaign has bought advertising on ABC in the past, she said, "but they did not buy the half-hour."
Obama taped an interview Wednesday with ABC's Charles Gibson, which is to run Thursday, his campaign said.
A source familiar with ABC policy suggested that the network had offered the Obama campaign a different time slot.
"Hypothetically, we would have offered them equivalent time," the source said. "We don't have to give them the exact slot they are asking for."
Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton said ABC had ultimately offered Obama the slot he wanted, but the campaign turned it down.
"By the time they agreed, we had already committed our resources," Burton said.
The Obama campaign reported last week that it had raised a record-shattering $150 million in September.
Obama has outspent McCain by a huge margin, according to CNN's consultant on ad spending.
Between the time the two candidates clinched their party's nominations in the spring and October 25, Obama spent more than $205 million on TV ads. McCain spent more than $119 million, according to TNS Media Intelligence/Campaign Media Analysis Group.
The McCain campaign launched an ad Wednesday attacking Obama for his 30-minute special, saying, "Behind the fancy speeches, grand promises and TV special lies the truth: With crises at home and abroad, Barack Obama lacks the experience America needs."
And the Republican National Committee blasted the timing of the ad, which pushed back the start of a World Series baseball game.
"It's unfortunate that the World Series' first pitch is being delayed for Obama's political pitch. Not only is Obama putting politics before principle, he's putting it before our national pastime," spokesman Alex Conant said.
The Obama campaign did not ask that the game be delayed, said a spokesman for Fox, which broadcasts the World Series.
"They asked Fox to buy the air time," the spokesman said. "Fox went to our partner, Major League Baseball, and asked if it would be OK to delay the game to take this important political advertisement. They agreed."
MLB's willingness to delay the fall classic for a political ad shows how very unusual the Obama TV spot is.
"Ross Perot did it in 1992, but it wasn't this close to Election Day, and now you have a very different media consumption environment. You didn't have the cable then," Tracey said. "There is no precedent for this sort of an ad this late in the race."
Using change and hope. What else?
On a side note: LOLOLOLOL you got banned.
it makes him look like some kind of dictator! taking over 30 minutes of the airwaves on 4 channels. What next? He gets elected then all of the channels are strictly Obama. I CAN'T WAIT!
I just watched and two things:
1. Its nice to watch a political message that is about the people, not bashing the other candidate (not one mention of McCain)
2. You just cannot deny that the guy has something special, even if you are against his beliefs.. at the very core he is doing something absolutely amazing all things considering.
I was apprehensive about Obama taking a 30 minute spot but really.. it was the best thing to do. I think it will sway some voters, it only continues the momentum that he already has.
He did PAY for it. Would a Dictator do that??
1. Agreed
2. I don't know if he has something "special", I do think he honestly believes that his ideas are the answer. When you truely believe in what you stand for, most people are not used to that these days or how to handle it.
Momentum or not, I think the race is alot closer than the polls show. I think Obama will still win, but I think it will be close.
the few minutes i watched it seemed like he was trying to make people feel sorry for him because of his parents and stuff.
I know, but it just reminded me of storys you hear about dictators taking over the airwaves to say how awesome they are. Thats what he was doing.
I thought the same till I saw McCain's closing campaign argument is about this Palestinian BS, you'd think he would jump ship and just try to talk to the people rather than point fingers. It wont even be close.
Didnt bother watching it as I was doing some work on the house. I voted vesterday though so it didnt change my vote Ron Paul write in FTMFW.
Something that does strike me though, if the fairness doctrine was put back into place like Reid, Pelosi and Obama want, would those same networks be required to give McCain the same airtime, in the same slot? I know that the fiarness doctrine would force networks like Fox to have liberals on in primetime slots also. Does the same apply to MSNBC, or CNN? Would they be required to put conservative on in prime slots?
I didn't actually watch it but I listened to it cause it was my daughters home work to watch it. I was in the room listening. It said exactly the same thing he's been saying all along and nothing new or nothing that would stand out. To me it was a waste of 4 million dollars.
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just flexing some musclessss...yeah!!
he has outwitted and out smarted his opponent in marketing, raising moolah, and modern strategic media warfare .
..even against all odds and being worth 500x less than his opponent, coming from a lower/ medium average home, a minority and a hustler thru college just to make ends meet, defeating the hardest democratic party battle to the former first lady, with both parents gone at an early age and not able to see their son rise close to presidency.. a nobody.
says alot about character.
A harvard law graduate who rejected all large corporate offers, to go do public service and make peanuts helping small neighborhood, is very noble.
go win this fucking election mr. muscles...!!
Yea it does say a lot about character cause it doesn't take a lot of wits to go against a promise you made knowing that when you do it will result in more money. Kinda funny the fact that Obama has 10x the money McCain does and isn't winning by a HUGE margin.
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I hate to inject this in here but you seriously expect a black candidate to win by a huge margin? Seriously? Lets not act like it doesn't matter, money alone doesn't widen the gap in an election.
So McCain's behind in the polls because he has less money? Surely its not because of his platform!
I saw the ad, it was certainly tasteful and well produced. But it didn't bring any new information to those following his campaign. Seemed like more of a "energize the supporters" kind of thing than a "sway people at the last minute" attempt.
Is that what I said
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the ads arent focused to sway set voters over. set voters already decided who they will vote for.
its to inspire swing or undecided voters.
so if you are set on voting for either one candidate, good for you.
they could care less if you cared. hehe
I agree with you, and I think the commercial was great. This add made Obama able to identify himself more clearly to those that particularly just listen to the various mud being thrown.
I think it's also bad for McCain to start degrading the commercial as it will only show him as a bad guy.
Um not really. This will actually help with his argument that he isn't who says he is and doesn't do what he say he will considering he broke his promise on public finance and that is the only reason why can afford to such a thing
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again, flexing muscles.... who cares about public finances.. lol
u already decided your vote.. these ad doesnt affect your vote.
millions have saw it, now its the coca cola advertisement affect, sit back and watch the good times roll. we will see if the ad was affective or not when the time comes.
our opinion means nothing at this point. you and i dont know mccain or obama personally.
hate to say it but all it takes is 3-5% of the people in the battleground states to go into the voting booth and say "nah, i cant do it" and the election is over for Obama.
is that going to happen, Prob not.
Polls dont neccesarily mean those people are going to go vote either.
Obama will win, but i dont see a LANDSLIDE imo
Didnt watch the commercial, have no plans to, he prob didnt say anything new
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I meant McCain will look bad to those who soaked up the emotional aspects of the video, probably not to those of us on here.
Obama has it in the bag, from what I hear Obama just needs to hang on to what he has and he'll win, meanwhile McCain needs all the toss up states plus he needs to steal 1 from Obama. Not likely.
You would think that is what it means. In reality the fairness doctrine was made to dismantle AM radio, because most of AM talk radio is conservative. I don't think Reid, Pelosi, or Obama would push to have it alter television as well, because most networks have a liberal bias.
I didn't watch the Obama infromercial either.
polls and people can say all they want.
you still have to go to the polling and vote. if you dont vote, all the polls dont mean anything. also, people may say they are for obama or mccain, but at the voting booth, they may vote the other way...
who cares, just vote for either one, dont waste your vote.
might as well give your citizenship to someone else who really deserve it if you are going to waste it.
i would be happy with either one in office, just get this over with.
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