RNC spends $150k on Palin's clothing

[blurred visions]

What does everyone think about this?

I sure as hell know that if I was a republican donating money I'd be furious. $150k could go towards advertisements or any other method of campaigning.

Discuss.

[Alan®]

What does everyone think about this?

I sure as hell know that if I was a republican donating money I'd be furious. $150k could go towards advertisements or any other method of campaigning.

Discuss.

WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK. SERIOUSLY BETWEEN YOU AND FLAK MONKEY YOU GUYS FIND THE DUMBEST FUCKING THINGS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.

[PawnShopCEO]

I dont care. The media looks for anything to pick her apart.

[blurred visions]

WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK. SERIOUSLY BETWEEN YOU AND FLAK MONKEY YOU GUYS FIND THE DUMBEST FUCKING THINGS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.

I'm not necessarily complaining, I'm commenting. I don't really care and I'm not using this to bash her. If anything I think it's a poor choice by the RNC.

[Spektrewing386]

$150k??? is it made from the eyelids of endangered elephants?

[Total_Blender]

$150k is probably about right. I imagine the Obama campaign has a similar budget. The candidates get a lot of attention and it makes sense that they would have different clothes for each campaign appearance. Being seen on the news in a bunch of different outfits makes a person seem to be in more places than they really are, I would think. She's also probably too busy and moving around too much to do laundry regularly.

The GOP obviously has no shortage of funds (granted Obama probably has more but they are still rolling in dough).

[blurred visions]

^true, but some things are a little over priced, such as McCain's $400 haircut?

[Spektrewing386]

that just sounds like cost-plus strategy there.

[4dmin]

actually it was 150k spent on palin and family... even the down syndrome baby sports $100+ outfits... best part everyone else in the campaign buys their own clothes. another twist is if she keeps the clothes she will have to pay taxes on this amount, but supposedly they are going to give the clothing to charity after the election

i don't find this hard to believe coming from a woman that charged her own state 20,000 to stay at her own home and another 20,000 to have her kids travel with her on business.

[PawnShopCEO]

actually it was 150k spent on palin and family... even the down syndrome baby sports $100+ outfits... best part everyone else in the campaign buys their own clothes. another twist is if she keeps the clothes she will have to pay taxes on this amount, but supposedly they are going to give the clothing to charity after the election

i don't find this hard to believe coming from a woman that charged her own state 20,000 to stay at her own home and another 20,000 to have her kids travel with her on business.

and considering she spent 400k$ less on state paid expenses on her behalf than the previous governor

[4dmin]

and considering she spent 400k$ less on state paid expenses on her behalf than the previous governor

two wrongs make a right? i'm against earmarks and pork barrel spending ya what happened to that? shall i mention bridge to no where?

[flak_monkey]

WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK. SERIOUSLY BETWEEN YOU AND FLAK MONKEY YOU GUYS FIND THE DUMBEST FUCKING THINGS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.

Caps lock? Is broken?

[flak_monkey]

$150k??? is it made from the eyelids of endangered elephants?

Yeah, and the buttons are panda nipples.

[BobbyFresco]

Eh, idc. campaign money spent and not tax payer money. All it means is she'll have more to take back home with her when they lose.

[Alan®]

FYI all the clothes worn on the campaign are being donated to charity

[tony]

I didnt vote for them anyway, nor do I donate to their campaign so I could care less. I'm sure theres some frivilous spending on Obama's side as well. I do feel that campaigns are a look into how someone will run the country.. and if there is wasteful spending there, well.. you get what I'm saying.

[Alan®]

Ok and Obama is outspending McCain 2-3:1 and you think that none of it is wasteful? I gaurantee that there is more than enough wasteful spending to mccain/palin look like penny pinchers

[tony]

Ok and Obama is outspending McCain 2-3:1 and you think that none of it is wasteful? I gaurantee that there is more than enough wasteful spending to mccain/palin look like penny pinchers

Obama has a lot more convincing to do than McCain.. furthermore its easy to outspend someone when you have 3 to 4 times the amount of cash the other person does. Obama is advertising heavily in Red states, that is not wasteful spending.. that is keeping McCain out of Blue states and putting him on the defensive.

Outspending doesn't = Waste. Someone who supports Reaganomics should understand that better than most.

[Alan®]

Obama has a lot more convincing to do than McCain.. furthermore its easy to outspend someone when you have 3 to 4 times the amount of cash the other person does. Obama is advertising heavily in Red states, that is not wasteful spending.. that is keeping McCain out of Blue states and putting him on the defensive.

Outspending doesn't = Waste. Someone who supports Reaganomics should understand that better than most.

I'm just saying that that in my opinion that there is wasteful spending on both sides but you're only hearing about mccain/palins because the media so rallied behind Obama that he can do no wrong. I'm just gonna stop there.

I hate the media and you know that.

[tony]

You know.. I just thought about something. For those who love the entrepreneurial spirit. McCain took public financing.. from the government, that could be interpreted as welfare on a large scale. $85 Million

Obama on the other hand did it from scatch.. all donations, minimal government handouts. But Obama runs a consistent surplus of funds, even Hillary came to him after LOSING to his campaign while running up a multi million dollar debt. It's not wasteful spending if you end up with a surplus of funds.

Just taking a step back and seeing that.. regardless of affiliation is impressive.

[Total_Blender]

Obama is advertising heavily in Red states, that is not wasteful spending.. that is keeping McCain out of Blue states and putting him on the defensive.
t.

Reps if I can. Obama's campaign is not only going after the base blue states and the battleground states like Ohio, they are also poised to turn over a couple of red states too. Obama has gone a step farther than the usual democratic strategy of just fighting for the swing states like Ohio and Florida.

[Alan®]

You know.. I just thought about something. For those who love the entrepreneurial spirit. McCain took public financing.. from the government, that could be interpreted as welfare on a large scale. $85 Million

Obama on the other hand did it from scatch.. all donations, minimal government handouts. But Obama runs a consistent surplus of funds, even Hillary came to him after LOSING to his campaign while running up a multi million dollar debt. It's not wasteful spending if you end up with a surplus of funds.

Just taking a step back and seeing that.. regardless of affiliation is impressive.

TONY THAT IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS THING I HAVE EVER HEARD.

So you're telling me that if the national debt was paid off and we had an extra $100 billion laying around doing nothing(a budget surplus) and some idiot senator decided that we need to have gold toilet seats in all public buildings that just because we have the money it's not wasteful?


Unbelieveable.

[tony]

I'm just saying that that in my opinion that there is wasteful spending on both sides but you're only hearing about mccain/palins because the media so rallied behind Obama that he can do no wrong. I'm just gonna stop there.

I hate the media and you know that.

I wont lie I rolled my eyes when I saw the story. I mean what do they expect her to wear? And honestly who cares.. I do think the media is getting petty on both ends and yes I'll agree there seems to be a bias going on but neither Palin nor McCain are helping theirselves. The VP runs the senate?? C'mon now.

[tony]

TONY THAT IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS THING I HAVE EVER HEARD.

So you're telling me that if the national debt was paid off and we had an extra $100 billion laying around doing nothing(a budget surplus) and some idiot senator decided that we need to have gold toilet seats in all public buildings that just because we have the money it's not wasteful?


Unbelieveable.

If we're running a surplus and there is an expenditure beneficial to the country.. (say, Nuclear energy exploration that would require investment) yeah I'm all for it. Lets not forget, Obama isn't buying designer ish with campaign funds.. I think you're getting the two campaigns mixed up.

Like I said, Obama is advertising in states that are detrimental to him winning the election.. that is what campaign funds are being spent on and that is not waste.

[Alan®]

If we're running a surplus and there is an expenditure beneficial to the country.. (say, Nuclear energy exploration that would require investment) yeah I'm all for it. Lets not forget, Obama isn't buying designer ish with campaign funds.. I think you're getting the two campaigns mixed up.

Like I said, Obama is advertising in states that are detrimental to him winning the election.. that is what campaign funds are being spent on and that is not waste.

I'll make my point in a moment need to take a shower.

[Vteckidd]

^true, but some things are a little over priced, such as McCain's $400 haircut?

how do you feel about obamas $10000 suits? Or renting out denvers stadium? Or the 30 minute ad he's running 4 days before election?

Get a life

[B18c1Turboed]

Im amazed on how much money it takes to get elected. I mean seriously they are spending millllllllllllllllllllllions for a 400K job, something never sounds right about that, should be old school where they draw their bill board with crayons!!

[4dmin]

how do you feel about obamas $10000 suits? Or renting out denvers stadium? Or the 30 minute ad he's running 4 days before election?

Get a life

if the guy wants to wear 10k suits and he pays for them who cares... point being you don't see a report coming out saying he spent 150k on suits just for his campaign. and you won't b/c they've already come out and said they pay for their own clothes. shit Michelle obama says she shops at gap

point is they can spend money on whatever they want and it wouldn't be an issue but mccain/palin are the ones casting stones on obama spending when the right is surely no different. i'm sorry but $100+ outfits for your new born is a joke.

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$100+ baby outfits won't fix down syndrome - trust me he won't know the difference.

[Vteckidd]

^true, but some things are a little over priced, such as McCain's $400 haircut?

how do you feel about obamas $10000 suits? Or renting out denvers stadium? Or the 30 minute ad he's running 4 days before election?

Get a life

[B18c1Turboed]

wasnt Macain blasting obama for signing the paper that he would recive fedreal help? And look who looks stupid now!!

[blurred visions]

how do you feel about obamas $10000 suits?

I never saw this information presented anywhere, show me. If it is true, then I strongly disagree with paying that much for 1 suit. Now, if it's for multiple suits then it sounds about right.

Or renting out denvers stadium?

When he accepted the nomination? He used that stadium because the party's convention hall was too small to accommodate his supporters and delegates. If anything, using such a large stadium and showing off such a large amount of people that support you is in a way advertising yourself. I think it was genius, people see this and take away a realization that he has a great number of supporters.

Or the 30 minute ad he's running 4 days before election?

I haven't heard of this either, and yet again, genius. Why would you say advertising is a bad thing? Are you trying to conclude that advertising with the money that people sent in to be used for advertising is wasteful spending?

You shouldn't have even posted this, your argument is none compared to anything I could dig up on your party. You republicans see Obama as "spend spend spend," and he's doing just that, there's no irony there (and he's spending it on something that will fulfill the objective of gaining supporters). The McCain camp wants to be viewed as a low tax, "we don't spend" kind of people, but this spending on clothing just can't be viewed as "hockey mom" spending; because thats what she calls herself right?

[SPOOLIN]

A woman gotta look good out there in public, the high dollar "elegant" clothes aren't cheap.

[Alan®]

The point you mad here

You know.. I just thought about something. For those who love the entrepreneurial spirit. McCain took public financing.. from the government, that could be interpreted as welfare on a large scale. $85 Million

Obama on the other hand did it from scatch.. all donations, minimal government handouts. But Obama runs a consistent surplus of funds, even Hillary came to him after LOSING to his campaign while running up a multi million dollar debt. It's not wasteful spending if you end up with a surplus of funds.

Just taking a step back and seeing that.. regardless of affiliation is impressive.

And the point you made here are two completely separate aguments

If we're running a surplus and there is an expenditure beneficial to the country.. (say, Nuclear energy exploration that would require investment) yeah I'm all for it. Lets not forget, Obama isn't buying designer ish with campaign funds.. I think you're getting the two campaigns mixed up.

Like I said, Obama is advertising in states that are detrimental to him winning the election.. that is what campaign funds are being spent on and that is not waste.

I agree with the 2nd but the first . Which is where the gold toilet seat metaphor comes in.

if the guy wants to wear 10k suits and he pays for them who cares... point being you don't see a report coming out saying he spent 150k on suits just for his campaign. and you won't b/c they've already come out and said they pay for their own clothes. shit Michelle obama says she shops at gap

point is they can spend money on whatever they want and it wouldn't be an issue but mccain/palin are the ones casting stones on obama spending when the right is surely no different. i'm sorry but $100+ outfits for your new born is a joke.

Again yet another hypocritical statement coming from the left. It's ok for Obama to wear for $10K suits yet it's not ok for The ENTIRE Palin family to have $150K in clothes that are going to be donated to charity after the campaign is over.

If Obama is paying actually paying for his $10K suits out of his own pocket(which BTW I highly doubt considering $1ok would represent 1% of his net worth) then hats off to him but like I said I HIGLY DOUBT IT.

[stephen]

...If Obama is paying actually paying for his $10K suits out of his own pocket(which BTW I highly doubt considering $1ok would represent 1% of his net worth) then hats off to him but like I said I HIGLY DOUBT IT.

according to the taxes they filed (fox and cnn both reported it), the obama family made $4M last year. $10K is only .25% of that. not to mention...who said he spent $10K on one suit? i'd like to see that article.

[Alan®]

according to the taxes they filed (fox and cnn both reported it), the obama family made $4M last year. $10K is only .25% of that. not to mention...who said he spent $10K on one suit? i'd like to see that article.

Well then maybe on this one I got my fax wrong. I'll have to go back and check my facts on that one.I know McCain(Due in large part to his wife)is worth like $30+ million.

EDIT: Do you mind post or PMing that article over to me.

Did a quick search and found the one I had read and another that said best year was '05

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/...oneymag/5.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23796726/

Always open to new information.

EDIT 2: NVM found it
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/..._releases.html

[bafbrian]

Well then maybe on this one I got my fax wrong. I'll have to go back and check my facts on that one.I know McCain(Due in large part to his wife)is worth like $30+ million.

EDIT: Do you mind post or PMing that article over to me.

Did a quick search and found the one I had read and another that said best year was '05

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/...oneymag/5.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23796726/

Always open to new information.

EDIT 2: NVM found it
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/..._releases.html

Correction, if you tie John and Cindy McCain's worth together, that figure is closer to $100M+, mainly due to her.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...o_n_94833.html
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/....ap/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/...y.politics.ap/

[Alan®]

Correction, if you tie John and Cindy McCain's worth together, that figure is closer to $100M+, mainly due to her.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...o_n_94833.html
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/....ap/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/...y.politics.ap/

Thanks for the info brotha. Always appreciate it . Reps if I can.

[bafbrian]

Thanks for the info brotha. Always appreciate it . Reps if I can.

Anytime. Writing a "million papers" for my B.S. in International Studies has me citing everything, even stuff I know that it true. I have been brainwashed to cite sources.

[Alan®]

Anytime. Writing a "million papers" for my B.S. in International Studies has me citing everything, even stuff I know that it true. I have been brainwashed to cite sources.

I'm SO glad that none of my classes this semester aren't writing intensive.

[bafbrian]

I'm SO glad that none of my classes this semester aren't writing intensive.

I have 20 papers, 16 down and 4 to go, for just one class this semester. Minimum of 5 pages with at least 5 sources = OUCH. Add to that, a 15 page paper on Substantive vs. Procedural Rights in Post-Mao Zedong China and a 10 page paper on writings from Alexander Wendt, John Mearsheimer, and Kenneth Waltz dealing with International Relations and Anarchy.

This has not been a fun semester.