McCain finally speaks up against his supporters...

[Alan®]

from the patriot act lol.

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/Section802.html#802

[tony]

In America it is defined as:

activities that involve violent… or life-threatening acts… that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State and… appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and… (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States… [or]… (C) occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States…"

William Ayers gets the label of a terrorist but he was never convicted of 1 act of terrorism. He was apart of a RADICAL group weather underground. How does an individual get the label of a crime of which he was never convicted.

[blurred visions]

William Ayers gets the label of a terrorist but he was never convicted of 1 act of terrorism. He was apart of a RADICAL group weather underground. How does an individual get the label of a crime of which he was never convicted.

Yea, and because Obama knows this person he is automatically viewed as a terrorist. Give it up republicans, you all believed Obama was a terrorist the first time you heard his name.

[alpine_aw11]

Yea, and because Obama knows this person he is automatically viewed as a terrorist. Give it up republicans, you all believed Obama was a terrorist the first time you heard his name.

Lol, surprisingly most of the frequently posting republicans in here are actually intelligent and have plenty of facts to back up what they say. So don't say that we all "thought he was a terrorist when we heard his name." pfffft

And on to Ayers. It is dumb to say that he did not have terroristic associations, I don't know what you all know about the Weather underground but they did bomb several government buildings and banks. And Ayers never denied any of this. Whether he was there or not, I don't know. But he endorsed that group and their actions, it's called guilt by association folks.

Does this mean Obama is a terrorist? Fuck no. But him having associations with the man is obviously going to be examined, and it should. You "Obama can do no wrong" people seem to not understand he is running for president. You guys are having a field day with troopergate where it's been shown that Palin has done nothing wrong, but whine about it when Obama's association with this man gets brought up. Presidential candidates are going to be thoroughly examined, and in this day and age where the general public is scared of terrorism OF COURSE any association with a man like Ayers will be looked in to. It's perfectly reasonable to do so. If McCain used to chill with the Unibomber I'm sure dems would be shitting bricks exposing it everywhere.

What I'm getting at is things like this should be examined, but the problem is people are going to draw unfair conclusions. I'm not going to judge Obama at all because of this, his policies alone are enough to make me dislike him. But it's just the fact is he is running for the most prestigious and symbolic political position in the entire world that means this kind of thing will be examined. It is perfectly understandable that it has been, and whatever conclusion you draw is up to you. Sorry for the rant, I couldn't stop.

[tony]

Lol, surprisingly most of the frequently posting republicans in here are actually intelligent and have plenty of facts to back up what they say. So don't say that we all "thought he was a terrorist when we heard his name." pfffft

And on to Ayers. It is dumb to say that he did not have terroristic associations, I don't know what you all know about the Weather underground but they did bomb several government buildings and banks. And Ayers never denied any of this. Whether he was there or not, I don't know. But he endorsed that group and their actions, it's called guilt by association folks.

Does this mean Obama is a terrorist? Fuck no. But him having associations with the man is obviously going to be examined, and it should. You "Obama can do no wrong" people seem to not understand he is running for president. You guys are having a field day with troopergate where it's been shown that Palin has done nothing wrong, but whine about it when Obama's association with this man gets brought up. Presidential candidates are going to be thoroughly examined, and in this day and age where the general public is scared of terrorism OF COURSE any association with a man like Ayers will be looked in to. It's perfectly reasonable to do so. If McCain used to chill with the Unibomber I'm sure dems would be shitting bricks exposing it everywhere.

You can most CERTAINLY look into William Ayers if you'd like, he is currently a well respected Professor at the University of Illinois, I doubt he has anything to hide at this point. But in the labeling of a terrorist Republicans seem to overlook that small fact.

[Vteckidd]

You can most CERTAINLY look into William Ayers if you'd like, he is currently a well respected Professor at the University of Illinois, I doubt he has anything to hide at this point. But in the labeling of a terrorist Republicans seem to overlook that small fact.

so if Osama Bin Laden becomes a professor we are all supposed to roll over and say hes doing "gods work"?
PLEASE

Ayers is NOT well respected, hes known for teached RADICAL IDEOLOGY, and bragging about his former radical ways.

Maybe you should look into him a bit more.

[tony]

so if Osama Bin Laden becomes a professor we are all supposed to roll over and say hes doing "gods work"?
PLEASE

Ayers is NOT well respected, hes known for teached RADICAL IDEOLOGY, and bragging about his former radical ways.

Maybe you should look into him a bit more.

Funny you bring that up, because Bush has links to the Bin Laden family.. why does he not get the same ridicule that Obama gets from you?

And I'm sorry Mike, I didn't know you personally know Bill Ayer's peers at University of Illinois or the REPUBLICANs he has worked with in Chicago on education reform. Obviously they respect him in some regard.. but you wouldn't know that if your tv never turns away from propaganda and actually did your own research.