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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    we are at war, if you have nothing to hide then dont worry about it.

    sorry
    Sorry but thats about the most retarded response possible to this issue. No offense to your personally, I just find this appalling.

    No 'war', especially the current nonsensical one, warrants trampling under foot the constitution and individual freedom of citizens. Its not about having anything to hide its about the fact that ALL citizens should have the right to private conversation UNLESS there is just a TRUE and just cause and then proper legalities should be followed ie. warrants, court orders, etc and then only when there is a reasonable cause.

    Whether you know it or not, or agree with it or not, attitudes like this make it possible for your own government to a$$fvck you...and without any lube either.

    The Adolf Bush administration has sought in the name of this so called 'security' which really ISNT BTW, to screw Americans out of their freedoms.
    Our country marches slowly and steadily away from the founding principles of our nation. What saddens and disgusts me the most is when citizens actually cheer this process on, or ask for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalman
    Sorry but thats about the most retarded response possible to this issue. No offense to your personally, I just find this appalling.

    No 'war', especially the current nonsensical one, warrants trampling under foot the constitution and individual freedom of citizens. Its not about having anything to hide its about the fact that ALL citizens should have the right to private conversation UNLESS there is just a TRUE and just cause and then proper legalities should be followed ie. warrants, court orders, etc and then only when there is a reasonable cause.

    Whether you know it or not, or agree with it or not, attitudes like this make it possible for your own government to a$$fvck you...and without any lube either.

    The Adolf Bush administration has sought in the name of this so called 'security' which really ISNT BTW, to screw Americans out of their freedoms.
    Our country marches slowly and steadily away from the founding principles of our nation. What saddens and disgusts me the most is when citizens actually cheer this process on, or ask for it.
    Let me ask you a question. Do you still lead your life the way you did 10 years ago? Do you feel the incesint need to constantly look over you're shoulder?
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    Nah not even. theres not enough alcohol on the planet that would convince me to bang that chick.I wouldn't hit that with Magic Johnson's dick.....on second thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by redGT
    Let me ask you a question. Do you still lead your life the way you did 10 years ago? Do you feel the incesint need to constantly look over you're shoulder?
    Well that was two questions.
    The first is irrelevant to this discussion.
    The answer to the second question is no.
    However, I am fully aware that our country is slowly sliding away from its foundation....a foundation that my ancestors fought and died for.
    I place a high value upon individual freedom and liberty, whether that be
    civil liberty or religious liberty. (freedom of conscience)

    Some place little or no value on such principles. Some place complete trust in the government to attend to those issues and follow blindly its lead. Its my firm opinion that such an approach will ultimately have fatal results.
    My views on this issue fall in line with the likes of Patrick Henry and Benjamin Franklin.

    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - B. Franklin

    "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government — lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." - P.Henry

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