Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
Actually S. Koreans are taller than N. Koreans. N. Korea is also a cesspool with close to the lowest standard of living in the world. Rolling brownouts are the norm there as is a lack of running water and any health care.

If we would have pushed the issue in Korea and removed the communists then we wouldnt have the problems with N. Korea that we have now. As it is, we fought 8 divisions of Chinese when me made the Inchon landings.

Now look at Afghanistan. If we finished the job in the 80's and early 90's then maybe Al Queda never forms and we dont have these issues with terrorism.

Now look at Iraq. If we finished the job in '91 then we wouldnt have the problems we have today.

Notice a trend here? A very long list of the US not finishing jobs it starts and it comes back to bite us in the butt. Why should we continue to do this to ourselves? When we start a job, we need to finish it, not just give up if it might be hard.
here's what i don't understand with some people's logic on iraq. everyone says "if we had've killed saddam back in the 90's then we wouldn't be there." not sure if ppl got the memo...but uh...he's dead now. by that logic, we achieved success back in 06'.

regardless as to who is taller or not...the point is "what's the value of success?" ok...so we didn't successfully unite north and south korea...SO! s. korea is our 4th largest trading partner & has the 13th largest economy in the world...regardless of of what issues we still have with n. korea. n. korea holds no legitimate threat to the U.S. and you know that. they fire off their missles and what not, but when's the first & last time you heard a report of some "korean terrorist" in the U.S.? the n. korean ppl have 3rd world standards of living....ok so let's spend $600B, give 4,000 U.S. troops funerals, and build a disneyland...that seems to be the right idea.

if communism is the major problem with n. korea, then what about china? are they not a communist country also? do we not borrow money from them? HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE OWE THEM? do they not have ppl living in less than ideal conditions? do they not have a MASSIVE military with insane capabilities? this notion that we have to clense the world of communism is just a lame excuse. the problem is the individual in power, not the system of government. china wasn't always this strong....chairman mao days... dude worked just like kim jong, and castro.

afghanistan...well hell, we were part of the problem. we gave them weapons and advocated al queda, so they could fight off the russians. we created our own problem, and now we're not even fighting it...we're too busy blowing up iraq.

i understand that finishing a job is important. that's more of the reason why we should be back in afghanistan and not trying to build disneyland's in iraq. we also have to understand that we create a lot of our own problems, and often go back years later and make things worse...that's the trend i notice.