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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    This is my favorite part. It is obvious Obama has ever run a business or he would know that raising taxes on a company simply means that the company is going to raise prices to compensate for that. Anyone with a 9th gade economics class could figure that out.
    most companies have raised prices with the economy w/o paying the taxes - what do you say to that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    most companies have raised prices with the economy w/o paying the taxes - what do you say to that?
    Well, at this point, we're at a current state where that may be happening. But they've gotten so greedy that if you decide to tax them NOW, the price will just go up AGAIN, to compensate for money lost. Making it a worse situation than it already is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willum14pb
    Well, at this point, we're at a current state where that may be happening. But they've gotten so greedy that if you decide to tax them NOW, the price will just go up AGAIN, to compensate for money lost. Making it a worse situation than it already is.
    it definitely is - life isn't getting cheaper. so taxing them is not different then now; at least if they are taxed they can complain about raising cost now they just raise cost w/o explanation

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    it definitely is - life isn't getting cheaper. so taxing them is not different then now; at least if they are taxed they can complain about raising cost now they just raise cost w/o explanation
    Well i don't want to give them a reason to raise it even more.. why would anyone? There is a reason they're raising it, greed, but think if they get taxed, greed + someone taking their money + wanting more money = bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willum14pb
    Well i don't want to give them a reason to raise it even more.. why would anyone? There is a reason they're raising it, greed, but think if they get taxed, greed + someone taking their money + wanting more money = bad.
    ya but i'm noting going to live in fear of taxing major corps... sh!t look at big oil? perfect example. record highs in losing economy - something wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    ya but i'm noting going to live in fear of taxing major corps... sh!t look at big oil? perfect example. record highs in losing economy - something wrong.

    Right, well that's just one point that i dont agree with. There's about 20 i posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willum14pb
    Right, well that's just one point that i dont agree with. There's about 20 i posted.
    u can vote for McCain. no body cares.

    everything you've posted would actually be beneficial for you if you are middle income to mid upper, unless you are super duper rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    ya but i'm noting going to live in fear of taxing major corps... sh!t look at big oil? perfect example. record highs in losing economy - something wrong.
    Not really. And I don't see how anybody can justify singling out one sector of our economy based on them making money
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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    it definitely is - life isn't getting cheaper. so taxing them is not different then now; at least if they are taxed they can complain about raising cost now they just raise cost w/o explanation
    Hey Paul, you heard of this thing called OIL? I think we use alot of it, i may be wrong, but im pretty sure its a neccessity.

    LOL

    OIL is whats causing prices to go up, nothing else. They are raising prices on goods to deal with 100$+ barrels or oil.

    But you prob think its because George Bush said so
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    Hey Paul, you heard of this thing called OIL? I think we use alot of it, i may be wrong, but im pretty sure its a neccessity.

    LOL

    OIL is whats causing prices to go up, nothing else. They are raising prices on goods to deal with 100$+ barrels or oil.

    But you prob think its because George Bush said so
    that is false statement. oil is a factor but there are tons of factors... living standards and goods just cost more in general. if we could point the finger at one thing like OIL you would see price of everything drop w/ it... say gallon of milk... have prices dropped? No. OIL is under 100$ a barrel why hasn't milk? what are the factors? production cost, competition, regulations, taxes, etc, etc, etc


    If Hilary was a republican and her vs Obama, GA would be on Hillary nuts.
    thats how its always been here.
    great post

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    oil is a factor but there are tons of factors... living standards and goods just cost more in general. if we could point the finger at one thing like OIL you would see price of everything drop w/ it... say gallon of milk... have prices dropped? No. OIL is under 100$ a barrel why hasn't milk? what are the factors? production cost, competition, regulations, taxes, etc, etc, etc
    This is true.

    We will use milk becuse you brought it up.

    Feed for the cattle is more expensive because of the expanded use of ethanol.

    Cattle numbers are down as more farmers are seeing more money in growing corn for ethanol. With less cattle, there is less milk from the source.

    Transporting the raw milk to be passturized is more expensive because of increased fuel costs.

    Packaging the milk in plastic containers is more expensive because plastic is a petroleum product. Also added in the costs of trandporting the packaging to where the pasturizing is done.

    Transporting the packaged milk to the grocery store costs more because of the higher gas prices.


    My point: Oil isnt the ONLY factor, it is one of many, but oil is still the main ingrediant in many of the individual factors. The other major factor being using food for fuel.

    The law of unforseen consequences comes into effect also as more farmers are trading in their cattle to grow corn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    This is true.

    We will use milk becuse you brought it up.

    Feed for the cattle is more expensive because of the expanded use of ethanol.

    Cattle numbers are down as more farmers are seeing more money in growing corn for ethanol. With less cattle, there is less milk from the source.

    Transporting the raw milk to be passturized is more expensive because of increased fuel costs.

    Packaging the milk in plastic containers is more expensive because plastic is a petroleum product. Also added in the costs of trandporting the packaging to where the pasturizing is done.

    Transporting the packaged milk to the grocery store costs more because of the higher gas prices.


    My point: Oil isnt the ONLY factor, it is one of many, but oil is still the main ingrediant in many of the individual factors. The other major factor being using food for fuel.

    The law of unforseen consequences comes into effect also as more farmers are trading in their cattle to grow corn.
    benefit cost out weigh almost everything... this is where the majority of company cuts have been. oil doesn't compare to benefit cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    Hey Paul, you heard of this thing called OIL? I think we use alot of it, i may be wrong, but im pretty sure its a neccessity.

    LOL

    OIL is whats causing prices to go up, nothing else. They are raising prices on goods to deal with 100$+ barrels or oil.

    But you prob think its because George Bush said so
    The dollar is devalued as well sir. Its not only because of Oil...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    Hey Paul, you heard of this thing called OIL? I think we use alot of it, i may be wrong, but im pretty sure its a neccessity.

    LOL

    OIL is whats causing prices to go up, nothing else. They are raising prices on goods to deal with 100$+ barrels or oil.

    But you prob think its because George Bush said so
    93 dollars a barrel. Last time it was that price is was ~3 bucks a gallon. It is over 4 right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinanM3atl
    93 dollars a barrel. Last time it was that price is was ~3 bucks a gallon. It is over 4 right now.

    Hurricane Ike has refining capacity way down right now. I believe capacity was somewhere around 75% for the next week or so before it will get back to full capacity.


    Also, I dont know where you are paying $4, though. I filled my tank today for $3.91 for 89.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    Hurricane Ike has refining capacity way down right now. I believe capacity was somewhere around 75% for the next week or so before it will get back to full capacity.


    Also, I dont know where you are paying $4, though. I filled my tank today for $3.91 for 89.
    Its 4.09 here... due to the fact that Ohio gets most of its fuel from the gulf.

    It spiked to 4.49 for 1 day, that was 3days ago

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