Sex education in schools...?

[Tracy]

Clearly judging from some posts here some have no real grasp on the points made here by myself or Jamie.

One more time....

1. There already is sexual education/information...TONS of it in fact.

2. There is NO shortage of information! Its EVERYWHERE!!!!

3. Adding MORE information about masturbation, homosexuality, alternative lifestyles etc etc etc will do NOTHING. Everyone ALREADY KNOWS!!!!...yet idiots keep screaming for more education and 'awareness'....all the while ignoring of the real issue.

4. The school system will NEVER be able to parent your children..EVER!

5. Msg for all....Stop being a selfish lazy piece of sheit and raise your own children, thats your DUTY. Its in YOUR best interest. Its in ALL our best interest.

6. Dont expect the government or school system to do YOUR job or the job of your lazy neighbor...its NOT possible no matter what socialist idiots like Obama (or others) tell you.

7. I could really give two sheits about Obamarama or McCain. I am not here to support either. This subject extends so far beyond either one of them it isnt funny.

8. I am NOT opposed to general information to assist children against predators or general sexual education in an age appropriate manner. No one here is that I can tell.

9. If anyone lives in a "Leave it To Beaver world" its those that think their public school system will be able to effectively teach morals, decision making, and do their parenting for them...OR PROTECT their children...and that adding more sex ed is 'better then doing nothing'. Thats pie in the sky rationalization, not reality.

10. My mothers job in social work not only included removal of kids from abuse etc and assistance with the results of parents failiings, and the bad decisions of young folk, but to TEACH, EDUCATE, and DEMONSTRATE a proper example...and to give folks in those situations (teen pregnancy, abuse etc etc)a hand up, showing them how to help themselves.
It also involved educating and assisting with information and resources (whether sexual or otherwise) for those who were yet to have a problem. It had everything to do with this topic. If you dont get that youre clueless!!
She would be the first to tell you of the innefectiveness of sex ed in schools, and how more wont help. She would also be the first to tell you that real PARENTING is the only answer.


11. If you think some big media "change" that sparked the current 'state of sexuality' came in the 80's and 90's youre WAY out of touch with reaility.. ..or too young to know the difference. It came way before that. I know...because I lived through alot of it.

12. Stop blaming the media/music/environment/society for the failings of parents to properly teach & protect their children...thats YOUR job as parents...not theirs.

Bottom line...add all the sex/lifestyle info in school studies you want....it will fail. That approach has failed all along and will continue to do so.

Info without parenting = fail
Info without morals and decision making skills= fail

ONLY if/when parents decide to stop putting their job off onto others and go back to doing it again will you see any REAL change. In the meantime, youre left with the Obama type "change"...which really isnt, but just more of the same ineffective pie in the sky crap.

You are REALLY upset there isn't the need to call people out of their names to get your point across. Not everyone is an "idiot" because they have a different view than you. Just saying.

[metalman]

You are REALLY upset there isn't the need to call people out of their names to get your point across. Not everyone is an "idiot" because they have a different view than you. Just saying.

I am not upset at all.
Obviously you dont know me nor have you read carefully what I have said....which seems to be a common problem in this thread with regard to posts by others as well.
The 'idiots' I refered to are those who while ignoring the real issue, keep calling for more education and awareness when those things ALREADY exist.
The 'idiots' are those that actually think kindergarten & school curriculum can be a subtitute for PARENTING. I make no apology for speaking the truth.
More of this same old approach is much like pissing in the ocean, it will not change the water level. It hasnt up to now, and it wont in the future.

[Tracy]

I am not upset at all.
Obviously you dont know me nor have you read carefully what I have said....which seems to be a common problem in this thread with regard to posts by others as well.
The 'idiots' I refered to are those who while ignoring the real issue, keep calling for more education and awareness when those things ALREADY exist.
The 'idiots' are those that actually think kindergarten & school curriculum can be a subtitute for PARENTING. I make no apology for speaking the truth.
More of this same old approach is much like pissing in the ocean, it will not change the water level. It hasnt up to now, and it wont in the future.

I read and understand what you said. Doesn't mean I have to agree with it. You are calling anyone who doesn't agree with you an idiot (or anyone you don't agree with). If you want to get your point across, it's best that you don't use name calling. I didn't ask you to apologize for your views and I don't call you, or anyone for that matter, any sort of name for having them Your VIEWS aren't necessarily "the truth". So, get off the soap box and try to learn how to have a nice debate with people who don't agree with you.