metalman...i never said you and jaime were wrong. i've told the both of you that i agree with you on MANY points. you too have the ideal mentality of what a proper parent should be. this entire thing started heading in the wrong direction, and that's the only issue ANYONE who has argued with you has tried to suggest. i re-read this entire thread, and BOTH OF YOU agreed that sexual awareness was an important thing for young children to learn, specifically, to protect them from sexual predators/abuse. the only thing that you two were hung up on was that "obama wants to teach 5yr olds about homosexuals, masturbation, and the scientifics of sex" which just ISN'T TRUE.

totalblender couldn't have said it any better...in a perfect world, ALL PARENTS would take care of their responsibilites and do as much as it takes to steer their children in the right direction, and protect them. the sad reality is, this world ain't perfect. we have social programs and institutions in this world just for that reason. regardless of what the government has to offer to help better OUR SOCIETY, there will always be those who will take advantage of it, BUT there will also be a countless number of those who will benefit. to take away from and de-moralize people who TRULY NEED and benefit from government programs just isn't fair.

last point...when you have 2 individuals (obama/biden) who SHOW THEIR MORAL VALUES WITHIN THEIR OWN FAMILIES (specifically sex education/awareness since that's what this topic is all about), who want to give the "less fortunate" (for lack of a better term) and opportunity to build those same values; VERSUS 2 individuals whose judgement on the situation is flawed (mccain cheated on his wife WHILE SHE WAS SICK, then married the mistress and palin has pregnant CHILD)...then it's clear which candidates prove they have the right ideology on the situation.

i almost forgot...metalman, i hope you didn't think i was taking "cheap shots" at your mother's career. you initiated it as an example (an example with a heavy negative connotation in it), and i rode with it to make my point. from what i gather, her line of work needs more individuals like her...people who have compassion for other human beings and are capable of raising intelligent children.