Obama DNC Speech

[stephen]

...I also thought that it still sounds too much like all the rest of his speech's ........EMPTY. More of the same I'm going to do this but no specifics...

i'm just curious...what in particular have you heard him say he was going to do, and not give any specifics??? maybe i heard something tonight (most importantly) that you didn't.

[Alan®]

i'm just curious...what in particular have you heard him say he was going to do, and not give any specifics??? maybe i heard something tonight (most importantly) that you didn't.

Come on man pick an issue. Here I'll give you one. He has been talking about it more and more lately but has yet to actually say how he plans to make getting a college education easier. I'm sorry but personally I don't think the government should be paying for our college educations.

[JITB]

Come on man pick an issue. Here I'll give you one. He has been talking about it more and more lately but has yet to actually say how he plans to make getting a college education easier. I'm sorry but personally I don't think the government should be paying for our college educations.

do u have financial aid?

[Alan®]

do u have financial aid?

nope sure don't. What's that got to do with the price of tea in china?

[JITB]

nope sure don't. What's that got to do with the price of tea in china?

so u dont believe in financial aid at all?

[Alan®]

so u dont believe in financial aid at all?

No no no Hell no I do but I just don't see the point in the government throwing more money at this. I only see the government attacking this "issue", and I use the term losely because I feel that there are more important issues at hand, one of two ways. The first is by regulating it. and 2 by either offering something losely based on the Hope(Which I think is a great program) or awarding some kind of tax credit.

[TIGERJC]

do u have financial aid?

DADDY PAYS for it


He talks like he works a real damn job and is actually supporting himself.

[Alan®]

DADDY PAYS for it


He talks like he works a real damn job and is actually supporting himself.

Yes Daddy pays for my tuition. Again someone answer the damn question, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China.

[Dirty Octopus™]

Yes Daddy pays for my tuition. Again someone answer the damn question, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China.

What does the price of tea in China have to do with you not having financial aid?

[TIGERJC]

Yes Daddy pays for my tuition. Again someone answer the damn question, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China.

I think it is funny that you make a lot of comments like the gov't shouldn't pay for this, but u haven't been out on your own yet and paid your own way. PPl like you are the reason why I view republicans as stuck up as.s.hole who only live in their box and can't even grasp the idea that a lot of ppl don't grow up with your advantages

[Alan®]

I think it is funny that you make a lot of comments like the gov't shouldn't pay for this, but u haven't been out on your own yet and paid your own way. PPl like you are the reason why I view republicans as stuck up as.s.hole who only live in their box and can't even grasp the idea that a lot of ppl don't grow up with your advantages

LOL at you knowing how I grew up dude. Trust me dude I haven't always had it as good as I do now.

[JITB]

DADDY PAYS for it


He talks like he works a real damn job and is actually supporting himself.

u can tell obama really got them upset!!

im confused who he is tryin to convince.....lol

[stephen]

Come on man pick an issue. Here I'll give you one. He has been talking about it more and more lately but has yet to actually say how he plans to make getting a college education easier. I'm sorry but personally I don't think the government should be paying for our college educations.

i got around to answering a little late, but you answered HALF of the question yourself. it was mentioned tonight, that he'd offer a $4000 tax credit for college students (that's $4000 less that daddy will have to spend on you). i don't recall hearing it tonight, but he did previously talk about increasing educator's salaries...more money grabs the attention of people who are more capable of teaching, but don't feel like they can "live" off of the salary. more capable teachers, increases the value of your education. and when the government pays for your education...THAT'S STILL DADDY'S MONEY....HIS TAX MONEY.

any other issue you need me to clarify???

[Alan®]

i got around to answering a little late, but you answered HALF of the question yourself. it was mentioned tonight, that he'd offer a $4000 tax credit for college students (that's $4000 less that daddy will have to spend on you). i don't recall hearing it tonight, but he did previously talk about increasing educator's salaries...more money grabs the attention of people who are more capable of teaching, but don't feel like they can "live" off of the salary. more capable teachers, increases the value of your education. and when the government pays for your education...THAT'S STILL DADDY'S MONEY....HIS TAX MONEY.

any other issue you need me to clarify???

Yea ok and if I hit my goal of 1/2 million inside of 7 years of graduating college it's going to be my money.

[stephen]

Yea ok and if I hit my goal of 1/2 million inside of 7 years of graduating college it's going to be my money.

well...technically it will....$4000 a year that you can keep in your piggy bank might help you reach that goal. as much as i despise income taxes, i understand the ideology behind it. when you experience a little more in life, you will be grateful when the government is willing to put that money into something you can use. maybe something like...your kids education (they need money for school buildings, paying teachers, providing transportation, etc.)...or maybe you might lose that 1/2 million dollar job and need to file unemployment to make ends meet...the list goes on. the problem is you don't understand what obama is telling you. obama tells you that he'll put your money into things that you need in everyday life. meanwhile, mccain LITERALLY said he's prepared to spend it on 100yr fight with iraq...you tell me...how would you prefer to see your 1/2 million spent???

[bigdare23]

well...technically it will....$4000 a year that you can keep in your piggy bank might help you reach that goal. as much as i despise income taxes, i understand the ideology behind it. when you experience a little more in life, you will be grateful when the government is willing to put that money into something you can use. maybe something like...your kids education (they need money for school buildings, paying teachers, providing transportation, etc.)...or maybe you might lose that 1/2 million dollar job and need to file unemployment to make ends meet...the list goes on. the problem is you don't understand what obama is telling you. obama tells you that he'll put your money into things that you need in everyday life. meanwhile, mccain LITERALLY said he's prepared to spend it on 100yr fight with iraq...you tell me...how would you prefer to see your 1/2 million spent???

Don't waste your time. They will never get the point.

[Alan®]

well...technically it will....$4000 a year that you can keep in your piggy bank might help you reach that goal. as much as i despise income taxes, i understand the ideology behind it. when you experience a little more in life, you will be grateful when the government is willing to put that money into something you can use. maybe something like...your kids education (they need money for school buildings, paying teachers, providing transportation, etc.)...or maybe you might lose that 1/2 million dollar job and need to file unemployment to make ends meet...the list goes on. the problem is you don't understand what obama is telling you. obama tells you that he'll put your money into things that you need in everyday life. meanwhile, mccain LITERALLY said he's prepared to spend it on 100yr fight with iraq...you tell me...how would you prefer to see your 1/2 million spent???

I always love how statements like these are taken out of context and twisted. That is neither here nor there.

This is my point I guess really is that his DNC speech seemed like more of the same and to be honest in most of his speeches like I said before he hasn't said much except "he wants to help the working american". Which to me I'm sorry but I think anyone who has an actual job paying a **** ton of money is still a working american.

[stephen]

I always love how statements like these are taken out of context and twisted. That is neither here nor there.

This is my point I guess really is that his DNC speech seemed like more of the same and to be honest in most of his speeches like I said before he hasn't said much except "he wants to help the working american". Which to me I'm sorry but I think anyone who has an actual job paying a **** ton of money is still a working american.

so you tell me...what context it supposed to be in???

your opinion in general just frustrates me, because it has only one basis "when i get my 1/2 million dollars." YOU STILL HAVE TO GET TO THAT POINT. you're still going to have to go out there and find that career job after school...and with the current political ideas, it's probably like finding a needle in a haystack.

trust me man, i directly relate to a lot of things he speaks about (in relation to my future goals). i went to college...and was fortunate enough to earn a GOVERNMENT scholarship. i graduated, went out trying to find a job...what did i find??? people telling me my education was fine, but i had no experience, and companies laying people off in my field. i get a job outside of my field (starting at $10.50hr, working 44+ hours a week), and build up LOTS of experience in it (managed to get a few certifications)...even became a manager. then what...i get laid off and replaced by 2 mexican dudes WITHOUTH WARNING...lol, on a monday morning at that. i still have to survive, and if the government has to take from people like my boss in order to help me...then i'm all for it.

[4dmin]

Come on man pick an issue. Here I'll give you one. He has been talking about it more and more lately but has yet to actually say how he plans to make getting a college education easier. I'm sorry but personally I don't think the government should be paying for our college educations.

um how do you propose people go to college then? not everyone has mommy/daddy or some other form to pay for further education. my wife and i have over 100k in school loans and if it wasn't for the gov't we couldn't of gotten her through school. my wife is now a doctor of pharmacy.

honestly that was probably one of the dumbest statements i've heard as far as debates. anyone who thinks we need to cut back on US education is a moron. our current education system is the cause of alot of our problems - outsourcing, unemployment, etc obviously you don't get out much b/c most major countries pay for education some have it for free.

[AirMax95]

um how do you propose people go to college then? not everyone has mommy/daddy or some other form to pay for further education. my wife and i have over 100k in school loans and if it wasn't for the gov't we couldn't of gotten her through school. my wife is now a doctor of pharmacy.

honestly that was probably one of the dumbest statements i've heard as far as debates. anyone who thinks we need to cut back on US education is a moron. our current education system is the cause of alot of our problems - outsourcing, unemployment, etc obviously you don't get out much b/c most major countries pay for education some have it for free.

QFT

[Alan®]

um how do you propose people go to college then? not everyone has mommy/daddy or some other form to pay for further education. my wife and i have over 100k in school loans and if it wasn't for the gov't we couldn't of gotten her through school. my wife is now a doctor of pharmacy.

honestly that was probably one of the dumbest statements i've heard as far as debates. anyone who thinks we need to cut back on US education is a moron. our current education system is the cause of alot of our problems - outsourcing, unemployment, etc obviously you don't get out much b/c most major countries pay for education some have it for free.

Wow someone please show me where I said that we need to take away from U.S. education. I believe that there needs to be a huge reform in education but it needs to come in the quality of what we are getting NOT WHAT WE ARE PAYING FOR WHAT WE ARE GETTING. This has beem my point all along sorry if I didn't communicate this well.