so are you still happy you voted for BUSH???

[Lucky DAWG]

mainly because blaming him is the easy way out, also because he said he was going to do something and he is seeing it through, hes not givin up with just good enough. also like i said before, the president is just a glorified spokes person. hes the PR of the government. anything he can do(for the most part) the house can overrule. hell the war had to be voted on a passed in order for us to go, he just couldnt decide to say "hey we are going to go to war today, i dont care what congress thinks." he could have done a military campaign but there is a limit on how long he can do that for thanks to either the Vietnam war or the Korean war, i cant remember which. also oil prices, as much as people would like to believe he does not control them. economy has anybody really thought about this. how many companies had major offices in the twin towers that went down in 9/11? it wasnt called the world trade center because it was an apartment complex.

I agree with you



but just a factoid, the President can declare war, He can say he is going to war with pretty much whoever he wants whether or not it was up to the framers to intend it that way.


The president has the utmost authority to declare war when in defending the country from an attack. The only thing is that Congress must sign off on giving him an army.

[Echonova]

Of course politics is always a subject that you're never gonna change peoples mind on.

[OTG Signs]

Last option.

[Specsteve]

+1 for you echonova

[Echonova]

+1 for you echonova

JHaha, check yo reps my friend.

[Lucky DAWG]

um bush came in to a surplus b/c our economy saw some of the best years every under clinton adminstration; which i'm sure someone is gonna post up that must be due to previous administration

either way bush has made no advances into stimulating our economy until his new check BS which is too little too late for our economy.

The main thing held by the beaurocrats is the power to raise and lower interest rates by the Federal Bank and when to buy and sell bonds. The president makes very little decisions on the economy if any. The rest of the power is all by the private industries and speculation under current news by the media outlets.


Like i said if you really want to do some research look at the problems Clinton pushed under the carpet that fell on Bush. I'm sure that recession that we entered into in 2000 was completely because of Bush... right??? NO, a recession doesn't happen over night. Just like the real estate probems today, that has been a long time coming.

[4dmin]

i'm out for the night guys - boss is calling :boobies:

[Lucky DAWG]

i'm out for the night guys - boss is calling :boobies:

No response to the fact that the president is an essence a lame duck when it comes to the economy?

[redrumracer]

I agree with you



but just a factoid, the President can declare war, He can say he is going to war with pretty much whoever he wants whether or not it was up to the framers to intend it that way.


The president has the utmost authority to declare war when in defending the country from an attack. The only thing is that Congress must sign off on giving him an army.

he has to get approval from congress first

Among the express powers of Congress as defined in the Constitution are the power to lay and collect taxes, borrow money on the credit of the United States, regulate commerce, coin money, declare war, raise and support armies, and make all laws necessary for the execution of its powers.

[Specsteve]

JHaha, check yo reps my friend.

Damnnnnnn!!!!!

outstanding lol thank you

Do you guys think Bush Sr. was a better President than Bush Jr, or vice versa? I was a little to young at the time and honestly do not know much about his term.

[Lucky DAWG]

he has to get approval from congress first

Look at FDR with Pearl Harbor.



What may be in the Consitution has changed now. The Presidential Powers have definately expanded



I'm not trying to belittle you, i agree with your post.

[redrumracer]

Look at FDR with Pearl Harbor.
What may be in the Consitution has changed now. The Presidential Powers have definately expanded
I'm not trying to belittle you, i agree with your post.

i know you agreed with me but check your reps for my reasoning and

On December 8 Congress declared war on Japan with only one dissenting vote (Rep. Jeannette Rankin of Montana, who had also voted against U.S. entry into World War I).

[Lucky DAWG]

i know you agreed with me but check your reps for my reasoning and

I think that might just be an official thing they do afterwards, the president has the first say and the damage is already done afterwards.



I'm just covering my ass when i say that though with more reasoning, i just remember reading that. Could be / probably am totally wrong lol

[redrumracer]

yea he can initiate the first action, but its called a military campaign. and before there was no limit on a campaign length until one of those other wars i mentioned.

[Lucky DAWG]

yea he can initiate the first action, but its called a military campaign. and before there was no limit on a campaign length until one of those other wars i mentioned.

i recede, i wont' win

[Turbo Terrance]

I couldnt vote i was only in the 8th grade at the time..........

[redrumracer]

I couldnt vote i was only in the 8th grade at the time..........

which time? and are you old enough to be here??

[Buttons]

I couldnt vote i was only in the 8th grade at the time..........

... you were in around 11th grade by the age on your profile? or did you fail a grade(s)?

[redrumracer]

Autumn we aren't discussing that validity of a black president so you can leave

[Buttons]

Autumn we aren't discussing that validity of a black president so you can leave

i know you are very illiterate and i know the NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND Act failed on your part and all, but i can discuss this subject. maybe not as well as others, but it is my opinion and it can and will be expressed. since reading fails you very hard, let me tell you that i already formed an opinion on this subject and wrote it. i can just as well dish out what i thought of what another person said. don't be a hypocrite.

[japan4racing]

im happy i voted for him...i agree with 99% of you guys that the situation over there is ****ed up...however, if john kerry was in charge i honestly feel that we would be in some serious doo doo now. we are better off with a retard running the country than a *****.

you really want some ****ed up ****..wait untill this next president get in office!

[_Christian_]

I voted for bush to keep the other douchenozzle out of office.

[redrumracer]

i know you are very illiterate and i know the NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND Act failed on your part and all, but i can discuss this subject. maybe not as well as others, but it is my opinion and it can and will be expressed. since reading fails you very hard, let me tell you that i already formed an opinion on this subject and wrote it. i can just as well dish out what i thought of what another person said. don't be a hypocrite.

apparently you didnt notice the smiley at the end of my statement and get that it was sarcasm. its ok i understand, your a woman. oh and no apparently the no child left behind did work, i graduated high school. thank you.

[Buttons]

apparently you didnt notice the smiley at the end of my statement and get that it was sarcasm. its ok i understand, your a woman. oh and no apparently the no child left behind did work, i graduated high school. thank you.

no, i'm just tired of all the sh!t you give me. just because i'm correct doesn't mean you have to be a smart ass about it. i'm not correct all the time, at least let me have my shining moments to prove i'm not a huge dumbass.

congrats on graduated high school. at my high school they taught the difference between you're & your.

... and i hope that wasn't sarcasm. i have a high school diploma meaning case and point, that i too graduated.

[redrumracer]

no, i'm just tired of all the sh!t you give me. just because i'm correct doesn't mean you have to be a smart ass about it. i'm not correct all the time, at least let me have my shining moments to prove i'm not a huge dumbass.

congrats on graduated high school. at my high school they taught the difference between you're & your.

... and i hope that wasn't sarcasm. i have a high school diploma meaning case and point, that i too graduated.

yes they taught us the differences, but i hate english soooo yea. i could care less about english.

[HyPer50]

I'm sure he did just as good or better than Kerry would of done, so yes, I am still happy.

[1SICKLEX]

When you are the HEAD HONCHO you take the credit when things are good and take the blame when things are bad.

The American people (us) are so apathetic today to what is going on, we will continue to get focked by what 565 people who really don't GIVE A CRAP about America or Americans.

[ultm8mind]

I am glad, who could have done a better job? Just curious? I know it couldn't have been Kerry, so YES, I am glad. I am in the military, most of the people who are complaining are probably "complaining because of Iraq/Afghanistan" and have never been and never will go......

[mocha latte cupcake]

definately glad i voted for bush. can't blame one man for starting things and trying to handle things when OUR government is a 2/3rd's vote on EVERYTHING, all the "false" info wasn't done by our president... someone else screwed up. thats like you never leaving your room and someone else is telling you whats going on outside your house... will you see it no... cause you're in your room, all you can do is believe your (intelligence) information your being given to be true and correct.

but without getting too far into this, totally glad i voted for bush!

[Total_Blender]

With gas prices who still believes the war was for oil?

I do because the price of oil has ****ing skyrocketed. Let not forget that the Bushes and Cheneys are oil men

[ShooterMcGavin]

clearly there are plenty of IA'ers that don't quite live in the America...

[ShooterMcGavin]

you really want some ****ed up ****..wait untill this next president get in office!

clearly a genius here...

[Total_Blender]

Don't forget that Clinton never had a "surplus", it was phony math.

So that $300 that Bush sent me during his first term wasn't real money?

[ShooterMcGavin]

So that $300 that Bush sent me during his first term wasn't real money?

ever heard the saying "there's no such thing as a free lunch"? probably not, you are in a trailer park after all right?

[Ran]

Considering it was either Bush or that whack-jon Kerry, yeah. I'm pretty glad we got Bush.

[Kelly]

Considering it was either Bush or that whack-jon Kerry, yeah. I'm pretty glad we got Bush.

[BABY J]

Ok - stay tuned for the thread ender post... give me a second to type it up.

[BABY J]

BUSH IS A F*CKING IDIOT





/thread

[eViLMunkey]

I didn't vote for him the 2nd time around I learned my lesson the first go-round

[ShooterMcGavin]

I didn't vote for him the 2nd time around I learned my lesson the first go-round

too bad not enough learned that lesson...