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    Quote Originally Posted by pitwork
    That is not true. I can make 225rwhp on a KA-T before cheaper than it costs you to buy an SR and get it to the same power levels. If you blow you're motor, you're either buying internals or a whole new motor. I can buy 20 KA's before you buy one SR. With similar flow characteristics and .4L more of displacement, lots of available parts, similar-lower costs, I don't see why more people aren't staying KA.

    This is true if you don't want to make over 240whp. And pushing stock, high mileage ka's to between 220-240whp you will replace 20ka's very easily. As for the price of parts. I haven't seen a descent pair of rods offered for the same price range as the eagle h or I beams that are offered for the sr20 motors. The cost of pistons is normally more expensive as well. And with the factory sleeved block I can make 398 without swapping the head gasket on a fully stock internal motor. Similar flow characteristics are true to a point, but the ka can't take advantage of the flow without a rod peeking it's head out of the side of the block to say . point is I am sure You can do the same power with either motor when fully built, but for someone who wants to add bolton parts without cracking the motor open and get up to 400whp the sr is way cheaper. Just my
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    Quote Originally Posted by silviadriftr
    This is true if you don't want to make over 240whp. And pushing stock, high mileage ka's to between 220-240whp you will replace 20ka's very easily. As for the price of parts. I haven't seen a descent pair of rods offered for the same price range as the eagle h or I beams that are offered for the sr20 motors. The cost of pistons is normally more expensive as well. And with the factory sleeved block I can make 398 without swapping the head gasket on a fully stock internal motor. Similar flow characteristics are true to a point, but the ka can't take advantage of the flow without a rod peeking it's head out of the side of the block to say . point is I am sure You can do the same power with either motor when fully built, but for someone who wants to add bolton parts without cracking the motor open and get up to 400whp the sr is way cheaper. Just my

    Well your right when it comes to getting to 400hp. But everyone that I know (again people that I have spoke to) Have built there sr20's when they got were ready to hit the 400hp mark also. To me where your going to 350-400hp on either motor it takes a good tune. But the KA needs alot better tune than an sr does. I think the problem is most people try to half ass tune the ka that's why they blow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CMO
    Well your right when it comes to getting to 400hp. But everyone that I know (again people that I have spoke to) Have built there sr20's when they got were ready to hit the 400hp mark also. To me where your going to 350-400hp on either motor it takes a good tune. But the KA needs alot better tune than an sr does. I think the problem is most people try to half ass tune the ka that's why they blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silviadriftr
    This is true if you don't want to make over 240whp. And pushing stock, high mileage ka's to between 220-240whp you will replace 20ka's very easily. As for the price of parts. I haven't seen a descent pair of rods offered for the same price range as the eagle h or I beams that are offered for the sr20 motors. The cost of pistons is normally more expensive as well. And with the factory sleeved block I can make 398 without swapping the head gasket on a fully stock internal motor. Similar flow characteristics are true to a point, but the ka can't take advantage of the flow without a rod peeking it's head out of the side of the block to say . point is I am sure You can do the same power with either motor when fully built, but for someone who wants to add bolton parts without cracking the motor open and get up to 400whp the sr is way cheaper. Just my
    You can make 350-375rwhp on a stock KA without cracking it open I've personally seen two cars do it. Its called, AEM EMS, T04E, fuel and tuning.

    CP pistons makes a very good set of pistons for both the KA24E and KA24DE. Also, crower makes a very good set of rods which have seen 638rwhp on a KA so if thats not strong I don't know what is? Yes you do need a very good tune on the KA but the power is possible. Both motors have their strengths and weaknesses but the KA's tourqe with boost is just phenomenal.

    Drive a 350rwhp KA-T and 350rwhp SR and you will be surprised by the outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitwork
    You can make 350-375rwhp on a stock KA without cracking it open I've personally seen two cars do it. Its called, AEM EMS, T04E, fuel and tuning.

    CP pistons makes a very good set of pistons for both the KA24E and KA24DE. Also, crower makes a very good set of rods which have seen 638rwhp on a KA so if thats not strong I don't know what is? Yes you do need a very good tune on the KA but the power is possible. Both motors have their strengths and weaknesses but the KA's tourqe with boost is just phenomenal.

    Drive a 350rwhp KA-T and 350rwhp SR and you will be surprised by the outcome.
    I haven't seen too many ka putting down those numbers unless they were rebuilt, not high mileage.

    True cp does make a good piston for that motor but the Crower rods are alot more expensive than the eagle h-beam or I-beam. The statement I made previously was intended to show that parts for the KA tend to run more money than parts for the sr. Not that they didn't make a good rod for the ka.

    As for the outcome of 350whp ka to 350whp sr. Been there, done that, no problem. But you know how most people like to fudge their numbers to make their cars look better. The guy could have been lying, plus I was about 500-600lbs lighter and on the ka/sr trans if you don't run a clutch that slips a little at that hp you might as well drop the trans from a 20 story building and it would have the same effect. I don't run a clutch with controlled slip. I run the exedy twin plate and launch off a 7200rpm 2 step.

    It's not that I dislike the ka. I have just seen too many bight the dust when anything over 10lbs is applied(rings,rods,pistons,blocks,ect..) Never said it couldn't be done, my point was that you can get more power with a fully stock sr and not have to spend 1600.00 for an ems(can't you buy an sr motorset for that price).
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