Yea i have meet some of these guys before. They loose, and it is a crying fest. "I missed second" or "I did not know how far we were going" and my favorite on of all "Well, it is just a neon after all, I mean, you have a v8, I only have a 4banger"....I say just shut up, congratulate the winner, and be done with it...that is my outlook. I was at tunerfest, and I was going to run my car, I got it tuned at the last second. But it started raining 15mins after I got there. I did not even make it into tech before the typhoon hit. Oh well.