Vtec girl, my comment was not directed to you. I know the track is the right place to go, and I'm looking into doing a DE at Road Atlanta in the fairly near future, but as of right now, I don't have the money. Also, when I said lesser cars, I meant NON-enthusiasts driving non-performance cars, yet driving them as if they were, e.g. pushing theirr stock, under-braked, shot suspension economy car through a turn. I respect enthusiasts of any kind, whether their car is nice, or fast, or whatever. I can also respect anyone that actually worked and paid for their own cars, my comment was directed at people who both got their cars given to them, and don't care or know about cars. I apologize for anyone I offended.