The 5speed that my dad is messing with was my bros (until he found a ditch ) and they can move. Even though the numbers aren't the highest. I guess I should throw out there that my dad was a master mechanic on honda and acura's for 26 yrs. And personaly think that u can be the late 80's early 90's models on any H & A. I think the pride in making a good car and standing behind it is lost(which was the Japanese way)