first of all, I have to keep my car quiet, so I know this might sound like a strange question, but how much on average will gutting out the catalyc converter on a car cause it to be? and btw the car is a 90 civc. don't bother asking why can't I have my car loud, all i need to know is it a lot louder at idle - 4k rpms mostly it doesnt really matter one way or other at near redline RPM's