What I am getting...

[ALVIN]

even since the new ones are liquid cooled that have twin side mount radiators? it still stays that hot???

I know its not a light bike by any means...this is the reason I am getting it since I way almost 130 than the bikes "dry" weight of 450+ lbs. That is one of the reasons I am getting a bigger bike because I believe my weight is going to have a lot to do with the smaller bikes and my ability to throw those around. My weight being 320. Its also a bike that I want to keep for a while and I just like the newer RC51s.

I appreciate everyones insight though.

[David88vert]

even since the new ones are liquid cooled that have twin side mount radiators? it still stays that hot???

The RC51s have always been liquid cooled. They are a race bike - uncomfortable if you are not in full tuck, runs hot if you are sitting in traffic (not moving), extrememly loud, etc. They were not designed to be ridden on the street. They were designed for the track. I have friends that ride themon the street and track. I would not buy one for either though.

Get a used beginner bike for now. You will drop it, hopefully you won't wreck it. My suggestion, get a GS500E, EX500, SV650, FZR600, F2, or F3. Any of these is plenty to start with. Ride it for a year or so, go to the MSF course, get your regular license, then get a bigger bike if you feel you are ready for it. When you do, don't buy the biggest, baddest bike. Buy the one that you have the most confidence on. Confidence in your abilities is what makes you fast, and keeps you alive. You want the bike to simply be predictable and give you confidence in all situations.