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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Vteckidd
    this is where i get arrogant, please excuse me (removes mainstream hat, puts on VTECKIDD hat)

    1) how is a D series motor NOT a interference motor? please explain, last time i checked they use a timing belt, cam gear around the crankshaft. it controls the valve opening with a timing belt, its an interference motor, all hondas are.

    2) If you want to say that using a 100shot on a stock D series is reliable, then thats OPINION, i have seen PLENTY of D series motors pop with spray, not alot pop on turbo. Nitrous build cylinder pressure faster, has more heat, and the CAST OEM pistons dont like it. sorry, i wouldnt recomend it.

    3) If it were my call, the best thing to do would be a turbo SOHC, itll make 200+whp, MORE TQ THAN ANY SWAP YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO, and they are cheap if they pop. Scotty has had his for 3 years boosted, non vtec, 10psi.
    4) A gsr with bolt ons CAN GO 13s in the right chassis. But, its still a stock 150whp motor. However, the GSR is very easy to mod, turbo or na, an it can handle 300whp, D series cant, B16s/LS cant. not RELIABLY.

    5) I have plenty of dynos to back it up, stop by anytime.

    6) It costs MONEY, plain and simple, people that want to shop around, buy used parts, slap together a bunch of stuff from ebay etc, be prepared to face the consequences.

    7) My resume is longer than most poeple on this board. from my 190whp OEM motor that only few remember i had 2 years ago, to my 240whp lsvtec. i know what it costs, and you cant do it for $3000. you might be able to, but dont say reliable in the same sentence.

    8) until i see RESULTS from people an not "im building something that makes XXX", i take everything with a grain of salt. the way it sits right now, i had the highest whp all motor car, and no one has beaten it YET.

    9) Turbo D series, if you want fast. YOu mentioned kevins motor, he had a $3000 b16 swap, blew it up, then built a $3000 swhortblock, with tuning, an everything else , hes got $7000 in his car. His car only runs 14s because he HASNT TUNED WITH NITROUS YET, HIS MOTOR WAS BUILT FOR NOS, NOT ALL MOTOR. so dont compare his track times
    see i dont want to swap a new one every 3 months and u make it seem like they will pop BUT their cheap to replace..

    i jsut cant see spending that much on a sohc than the potential of a gsr..

    u have to remeber guys we put 5k as a standard, that will not be final product. i may do a swpa then come back 3 months later, do a turbo set up, or a na setup .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfwit
    see i dont want to swap a new one every 3 months and u make it seem like they will pop BUT their cheap to replace..

    i jsut cant see spending that much on a sohc than the potential of a gsr..

    u have to remeber guys we put 5k as a standard, that will not be final product. i may do a swpa then come back 3 months later, do a turbo set up, or a na setup .
    i didnt say they WOULD blow, but its possible.

    i dont see how you can say you dont want to have any issues, but in the same sentence you want to do a GSR with a 100shot.

    the D series is more relaible than the nitrous motor, sorry.
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