Originally Posted by uproot
veilside fortune:
thats hot veilside
veilside fortune:
thats hot veilside
"Rides" I dont discriminate
95Accord*stolen*01Tiburon*sold*93Altima*sold*91Rx7 *sold 98GrandCherokee*traded*91Supra Turbo targa*sold*91Bonnieville*sold*05Caravan sxt*traded*05Durango*sold*95Neon*sold*95Civic EX coupe*traded*01Jetta VR6*traded*05Mustang Conv*sold*92SC400*sold*96Roadmaster*sold 90Accordlx*sold*
91Accord Ex *sold*90Nissan 240sx *daily driver*06 Dodge Magnum leased *95j30*sold 86 gmc jimmy current 00 ES300 current *85 S10 Blazer(v8) dd
yeah, to bad they only made one
My new vette will be waiting on a big bad 13b to take it down.
Matt
Hmmmm.
Let me explain it this way. You may believe that you will run high 11's/low 12's on $2500, but you will find out it's alot more expensive than you think. You will not make more power than a decent 20B swap will without going with some sort of power adder or a massive build on the motor. For the 13K that you are speaking of, I can make a fresh built 20B put over 800 to the ground - safely and reliably for more than 70K miles. For your $2500 figure, you can only run an older LS1 in stock configuration. If your going to do the swap, get a newer more powerful LS1. You will need the tranny, harness, and ecu. Then you will need the subframe, a custom driveshaft, custom exhaust, oil coolers, better radiator, lines, fuel system, etc. You will end up spending a lot more than $2500 to make a lot of power. Personally, if I wanted the older LS1, I'd just buy a Trans-Am, Camaro, older Vette, etc. All of them are great cars, and it's a lot easier than a swap (aggravation of the car being out of commission, lost time, etc.). If you just want to do the swap because you want it, by all means go for it. I've got friends with various V8's in their FC's - and all of them spent a lot more than they thought it would be, and none of them are as fast as they thought it would be initially. But - all of them sound great. The rumble of the V8 really catches people's attention.You could do the 20b, but why? It won't make any more hp than an LS1 is capable of, most parts have to be custom made, as do some of the tools to work on them, the motor is very heavy compared to the LS1 (and thus affects handling), the motors still only last 70k miles and get shitty gas mileage.
Most LS1 swaps run mid-low 12's and good drivers can bring them into the 11's. It's gonna cost me a total of I can get LS1 crate motors for around $1000 a peice and trannys for $500. The total cost of mounting equipment comes to about $1000, so you're telling me you could do a 20b swap for $2500(mind you this is an fc, less mounting equip needed), most 20b swaps I've seen run about $10-13k and that's leaving the motor stock.
My picture is in a street car also, it runs on pump gas, has full interior and is expected to run in the 8s on radials but last time they were at the track, the rear-end locked on them
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
tAKE UR NEW VETTE AND RUN IT INTO A WALL ASSHOLE
1993Mazda rx7 (t-78 single turbo)woosh!
04 Nissan Armada
Let me explain it this way. You may believe that you will run high 11's/low 12's on $2500, but you will find out it's alot more expensive than you think. You will not make more power than a decent 20B swap will without going with some sort of power adder or a massive build on the motor. For the 13K that you are speaking of, I can make a fresh built 20B put over 800 to the ground - safely and reliably for more than 70K miles. For your $2500 figure, you can only run an older LS1 in stock configuration. If your going to do the swap, get a newer more powerful LS1. You will need the tranny, harness, and ecu. Then you will need the subframe, a custom driveshaft, custom exhaust, oil coolers, better radiator, lines, fuel system, etc. You will end up spending a lot more than $2500 to make a lot of power. Personally, if I wanted the older LS1, I'd just buy a Trans-Am, Camaro, older Vette, etc. All of them are great cars, and it's a lot easier than a swap (aggravation of the car being out of commission, lost time, etc.). If you just want to do the swap because you want it, by all means go for it. I've got friends with various V8's in their FC's - and all of them spent a lot more than they thought it would be, and none of them are as fast as they thought it would be initially. But - all of them sound great. The rumble of the V8 really catches people's attention.
Not trying to be an ass or anything, I mean I love seeing 20b's. I think they are very unique but I feel that the LS1 suits my needs more. The motor I'm getting is an 04 LS1 crate motor = 0 miles(I dont know what you mean by "newer LS1", I am also getting a custom cam and head porting, all for $1000. The guy who is selling me the motor is also selling me the tranny for $500 and he is including a fuel management system. In addition to this, I am ordering the Granny's Speed shop LS1 Delux kit which comes with the subframe,custom driveshaft, oil coolers, better radiator, lines, fuel system, etc., everything needed to do the swap and it's $1200. Installation will be done by myself and the guy who is selling me the motor and tranny. So for $2700 my RX-7 will be pushing well over 400rwhp. But granted, to most people, this swap would be upwards of $6k.
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well you wont be waiting to long
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A 04 LS1 crate for $1K? A little warm maybe? You shouldn't even be posting right now - you should be on your way to pick to up tonight. If he is giving you all that for that cheap, you should go take a loan out from the bank and get 2 sets - sell one and install the other. You wouldn't just break even, you'd make good money.
04 LS1 (used) = $3500 average
Decent EMS = $1K average
3 angle on the head = $1k
+ more
What are you waiting for?
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
Yea holy crap, he got any more of those $1k ls1's? lol
Actually David, his business is selling LS1s and Northstar V8s. He is my best friend's uncle and we are working for him to help out his business, so he is giving me the motor cheap. No need to rush out right now, I don't have the money yet nor do I have the resources to haul my car to California. The motor will be there until I need it.
Ironchef, yes, he has plenty but he'll charge you the standard $4500.
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ahahahaaa... best quote ever! thats almost sig worthy. Id take a FD over a POS vette anyday, no mater what the end result of power is in either. OHH and the guy talkin about his cool new vette, isnt that a slightly diffrent price range than an FD??
If i wanted a LS1, i would buy some crap heavy old american junker and throw a LS1 in it. But thats just my opinion. IMO i belive that an LS1 in a RX a waste of the RX7, just due to the fact that its running on pistons, not rotary.
I think me and David stand on the same page here.
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
not shabby, not to many products out the with that kinda margin. and like stated above, you should buy two. Shoot, i would buy 10 or 15, but thats just me.
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
I always hated the veilside fd. I think a stock fd type rs-r (jdm blacked out one) with wheels is perfect..
Im with u, i like em cleannnnn...
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
Actually no, we are not on the same page. I like the Corvette a lot. Have you driven a Z06? A stock Z06 of any year will smoke a stock FD. I enjoy driving high-performance cars - of any type. I'm just not really big on swap to another manufacturer's engine. It's like a heart transplant. I prefer to keep my own heart in my chest .....ahahahaaa... best quote ever! thats almost sig worthy. Id take a FD over a POS vette anyday, no mater what the end result of power is in either. OHH and the guy talkin about his cool new vette, isnt that a slightly diffrent price range than an FD??
If i wanted a LS1, i would buy some crap heavy old american junker and throw a LS1 in it. But thats just my opinion. IMO i belive that an LS1 in a RX a waste of the RX7, just due to the fact that its running on pistons, not rotary.
I think me and David stand on the same page here.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
The new vette is a great car .very fast out the box,ive got about 50 k invested in the fd,if i had have invested that much in a z06 it would have had 1000 hp plus.But its fun pulling 450 + hp outa 1.3 liters...and weighs2500 lbs!And in the case of 500hp civics, they dont hook up,my se-r had 305 at the wheels and it just spunn tires.
1993Mazda rx7 (t-78 single turbo)woosh!
04 Nissan Armada
Another se-r with 300 something?
My old se-r,305whp,built motor,t3t4.
1993Mazda rx7 (t-78 single turbo)woosh!
04 Nissan Armada
what would have to be done to put a 20b in a 93 rx7 and what would have to be done to get it to 700hp. i always wanted to get in to the rotary world and i was thinking of going that route. but im still doing my research
2006 Evo IX - Bolt ons
i just did a little bit of research and i found the average price to do the 20b swap cost 30-35k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is that for real
2006 Evo IX - Bolt ons
too much money
1993Mazda rx7 (t-78 single turbo)woosh!
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Just rock radials all day long, that way you atleast have 3rd,4th, and 5th gear you can play in.
If you go to Pettit, yes. If you know what you are doing, you can do it decently for around $13K. But you will need to be mechanically inclined.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
Your right, I rephrase. I become very biased AGAINST the vette when on the subject of relating a FD to a vette, most likly unfairly biased againts the Vette. I have not had the pleasure of driving a Z06. Standard C5 is as close as I have come, I enjoyed it very much. But, when i spoke of being on the same page, I was refering to the LS1 swap. I am against it, I like my original heart also. Maybe that clears it up. Car for car, i would take a FD over a vette, but thats pushing aside the obvious resale diffrence of the two vehicals. If i was to take that into consideration, I would take the vette, and sell it. then buy an FD, and invest the restHopfully I cleared up my unfairly biased opinion.
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
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