3sgte to ae86

[2.0civic]

And how long have you been working on cars?
How many engine swaps have you done?
How many custom roll-cages have you made?
How many engine rebuilds?
How many turbo exhaust manifolds have you made?
I've been working on cars with my dad since I was 4 years old no joke.
The reasoning for getting toda rather than something else is because I've also added up the cost of everything and it would not cost as much and it would be just as good because those are really fucking strong pistons. I've looked at HKS pistons and other stuff and it would be way more expensive.
So uhhhhhh........ Go fuck yourself. Don't say shit about a car you don't know.

P.S. Do you ever go to The Varsity? I'd like to explain this to you in person.

whoa whoa whoa man!! nobodys trying to be a cock so dont get your panties in a wad. Working on cars since 4?? dont we have child labor laws against that?? lol, JK but handing your dad a screw doesnt count.

[AE86 Dorifto]

whoa whoa whoa man!! nobodys trying to be a cock so dont get your panties in a wad. Working on cars since 4?? dont we have child labor laws against that?? lol, JK but handing your dad a screw doesnt count.

I don't have a problem with you. It's dick-head over there. People don't need to call people idiots and assume that I'm a retard because I said something that doesn't seem logical. All they need to do is ask "Why would you bosst high compression?" Then, I would give the answer and tell them all the details And they could say "Oh, I guess I see your point there." Then it would be all good and no one would get mad.

[yudalicious]

I don't have a problem with you. It's dick-head over there. People don't need to call people idiots and assume that I'm a retard because I said something that doesn't seem logical. All they need to do is ask "Why would you bosst high compression?" Then, I would give the answer and tell them all the details And they could say "Oh, I guess I see your point there." Then it would be all good and no one would get mad.

So what is your answer? why would you boost w/ the Toda kit? All you've really said are childish remarks about me and how long you've been working on a car, which does not answer the question. I'm being an ass because you sound like the typical ricer who has read one too many import trash mags and seen one too many episodes of initial D.

It's possible to boost w/ high compression, but there's a reason why it's preferably not to. In addition, how bout the cams? I'm assuming they're high overlap NA cams? What about the ECU? Timing too much advanced? And I'll assume the it'll run way too lean for a turbo?

Finally, let's compare my arguments vs. yours. I've laid my arguments out logically and plainly, while your arguments have consisted of "fuck you" "let's race!" "I know more than you do!" So far you have just looked like another ricer who doesn't have a clue what he's talking about and is quick to rely on high school insults.

yudalicious, who is still awaiting your answer

[AE86 Dorifto]

So what is your answer? why would you boost w/ the Toda kit? All you've really said are childish remarks about me and how long you've been working on a car, which does not answer the question. I'm being an ass because you sound like the typical ricer who has read one too many import trash mags and seen one too many episodes of initial D.

It's possible to boost w/ high compression, but there's a reason why it's preferably not to. In addition, how bout the cams? I'm assuming they're high overlap NA cams? What about the ECU? Timing too much advanced? And I'll assume the it'll run way too lean for a turbo?

Finally, let's compare my arguments vs. yours. I've laid my arguments out logically and plainly, while your arguments have consisted of "fuck you" "let's race!" "I know more than you do!" So far you have just looked like another ricer who doesn't have a clue what he's talking about and is quick to rely on high school insults.

yudalicious, who is still awaiting your answer

Ok, listen. You are the one who said I'm an idiot, said I know nothing about cars, and said I'm a ricer with a low self-esteem. Quote me an insult I said to you. Anyways, I'll explain this to you. The cams aren't that much different from other things. The ECU I can get from a 4agze and hack it. And the air/fuel mixture can be controlled by an AFC. Now you stop calling me a "idiot" and a "ricer" and I'll stop asking if you want to race.

[yudalicious]

Ok, listen. You are the one who said I'm an idiot, said I know nothing about cars, and said I'm a ricer with a low self-esteem. Quote me an insult I said to you.

See page 1. You're right, I did insult you, except mine were much more clever and yours were just so so.

Anyways, I'll explain this to you. The cams aren't that much different from other things.

Most NA cams are different from turbo cams in duration and lift and I don't particularly care about doing research on exact specs, but assuming the cams worked OK for turbo, wouldn't you be better off buying cams designed for forced injection that will probably in all likelihood work better?

The ECU I can get from a 4agze and hack it. And the air/fuel mixture can be controlled by an AFC.

And it makes no sense to me to buy an ECU probably tuned exceptionally well for an NA set up and then use an AFC (a more band aid set up) to make it work with turbo? Spending extra $ and effort?

In summary, you want to
1. Buy high comp. pistons and then buy a thicker headgasket to lower compression
2. Buy NA cams that "aren't much different from other things" (what exactly does that mean...? beats me)
3. Buy an NA ECU most likely with advanced timing and a relatively lean map and then use an AFC (a rather crude method compared to tuning ECUs) to richen it up for turbo

When you're driving, do you make three lefts to go right?

[AE86 Dorifto]

See page 1. You're right, I did insult you, except mine were much more clever and yours were just so so.


Most NA cams are different from turbo cams in duration and lift and I don't particularly care about doing research on exact specs, but assuming the cams worked OK for turbo, wouldn't you be better off buying cams designed for forced injection that will probably in all likelihood work better?


And it makes no sense to me to buy an ECU probably tuned exceptionally well for an NA set up and then use an AFC (a more band aid set up) to make it work with turbo? Spending extra $ and effort?

Awesome the insults are over. I would sell the ECU for higher than I would get an ECU from a 4agze. I would also sell the cams for higher than the cams that I would buy. That would make it cheaper than buying stuff from HKS. Do you o to the car meets at the varsity? If you have any more questions, it would be easier to explain it in person. We cool now?

[yudalicious]

Awesome the insults are over. I would sell the ECU for higher than I would get an ECU from a 4agze. I would also sell the cams for higher than the cams that I would buy. That would make it cheaper than buying stuff from HKS. Do you o to the car meets at the varsity? If you have any more questions, it would be easier to explain it in person. We cool now?

so the pivotal part of your genius plan rests on some idiot paying you more $ for an ECU and cams than what they would pay buying from Toda... regardless, this is getting no where, it's your money and car, good day sir lol.

[Vteckidd]

The TODA Racing AE86 4AG competition engine kit includes a TODA Racing ECU program (reprogram of your stock ECU), high compression forged piston kit, campulleys, valve springs and camshafts. The pistons are available in 3 sizes; 81.00mm/81.25mm/82.00mm. Camshaft are one 272 (7.9mm) camshaft and one 264 (7.9mm) camshaft. An optional remote ignition controller is available for an additional $150.

Kit List Price: $3,310

Thats not bad for a TODA kit however, no rods are listed with that kit. I would shop around some places offer BUILT LONGBLOCKS for

http://www.toysport.com/webpages/Web...ARCH202002.htm

3SGTE 3RD GEN Caldina ST215 260 HP BRAND NEW $4,500.00
3SGTE 3RD GEN FORGED TURBO PISTONS 8.5:1 OUTRIGHT $4,500.00
3SGTE 2ND GEN FORGED TURBO PISTONS 8.5:1 TRD GROUP A $4,500.00
3SGTE 2ND GEN FORGED TURBO PISTONS 8.5:1 $3,000.00
3SGE 4TH GEN VVTi BEAMS, Full Harness ECU BRAND NEW $5,500.00
3SGE 3RD GEN FORGED TURBO PISTONS 10.5:1 $3,000.00
3SGE 2ND GEN FORGED TURBO PISTONS 10.5:1 $2,500.00
4AGE 20 VALVE 12.5 COMP. / PREPARED HEAD / CRANK / CAMS OUTRIGHT $5,500.00
4AGE 20 VALVE FORGED TURBO PISTONS 8.5:1 OUTRIGHT $2,500.00
4AGZE LATE FORGED TURBO PISTON 8.3:1 $2,500.00
4AGE LATE HI COMP FORGED PISTONS 12:1 $2,000.00