The new supra is coming out in 2 years. Will the new supra hurt the 93-98 supra's. I personally really hope the old supra value will go down.
The new supra is coming out in 2 years. Will the new supra hurt the 93-98 supra's. I personally really hope the old supra value will go down.
2006 Evo IX - Bolt ons
supra prices are already on the way down. and i doubt the introduction of a supra that nobody wants will effect its price. the last true supra is the mkiv. i dont like the idea of releasing a new supra at all. it will be overpriced, and more ppl will probably get mkivs keeping the market around the same.
Actually brandon according to most people Supra prices are on the rise.. the more and more dumb fucks who get them and wreck em.. the rarer they become.. I bet there is only around 4K left now a days
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yeah i doubt the price will go down, i mean hounestly. if i had to pic between a older supra and a newer. id pick the older. newer cars these days are made to break. i hate to much tech in a car. thats less i can do.
why do people screw things up for the people that really want a supra!Originally Posted by The Ren
^wow. i havent been really checking the market lately. i remeber back when i was looking you coudl find a single turbo 94 for like 24k. seen a few auto bpu 93s going for 20k. sad to see the market rising.
yep, getting farther and farther out of reach.Originally Posted by PSINXS
I was looking on SupraForums..Originally Posted by PSINXS
A 93 1/2 Auto single with 140K miles is going for 26Kobo...
Highly modded 94 Single with 80K miles going for 35K
94 TT TRD widebody 6 spd (with small front end damage on the kit) 83K going for 29K
even a 95 NA with 32K miles is going for 15K..
They are definatly back on the rise..
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I guess i will never own a supraOriginally Posted by The Ren
, but i will be fine with mr2's
. Mr2's prices are more than reasonable.
wow im the only person to say yes
Last edited by TIGERJC; 03-14-2006 at 08:42 AM.
2006 Evo IX - Bolt ons
Fuck it, stick with the old supra
Wont see me pay that much for A Yota 10 + years old... the years is nothing really.. is the miles ...
Yeah ren is right. Prices are on the way UP.
A bone stock silver one, perfect condition 30,000 miles (I was watching it) sold for over 60,000 on ebay.
The thing is, why would you want to buy a tuned one? Maybe if its your friend its different, but you don't know who installed the parts and how the was treated. Brand X scares me too.
I agree, to me the MKIV is the last supra. You can't take a break like this and then use the same name, its dishonors the old ones; the looks will have nothing in common. Also that fact that apparently it will be a V-8 also means the Supra name shouldn’t be used. While maybe it will take a little more work, the evolution of the 2JZ power plant would not be too hard to work.
Also Toyota (and Honda) are seriously pissing me off because they WILL NOT build engines that supposed to be fast. For the record, Lexus engines are POWERFUL. Those luxury cars are fast because the engines are powerful, not because they were built as performance engines.
Imagine if Honda took the same 100/hp a cylinder technology and put it into a high displacement, >4 cylinder engine that was designed to be fast (lower I-VTEC kick in, fuck fuel economy) and then turbo’d it. HORSEPOWER. I remember in a previous generation of the Civic, the Si was advertised with the “Legendary power of the renowned VTEC engine.” Even Honda themselves seems to forget; the VTEC concept was pioneered in the 80’s by them for fuel economy. However, the project split in two, one for the fuel economy and one for power. The American market was judged to want power more then gas sipping (still true).
Here is something I posted on another forum.... I didn't just write this so that’s why it may not match up exactly, but I feel the same.
"I would say that Toyota has done itself in for the sporty world. Last year for the Celica (was last fast in 89? turbo edition? GT4 has been in Europe); Supra's been dead, MR-2 is done as well now; and they weren’t selling well anyway. Fastest car is the frickin 3.0 liter, DOHC, V-6, 280hp Avalon. What the hell is going on? The corolla is NOT a tuner car; no matter what a salesmen might tell you about them. There are no where NEAR enough parts for it, and TRD is a joke. They are late with parts (just came out with a supercharger for the tC. 40 HP. Greddy has had a turbo out for months and it offers a 100hp gain.) I know that they are factory parts, but if you are slapping on forced induction, do you care about your warranty? Back to the tC. Yes it looks great; but at its heart it is a 4 banger. 160 hp. my mom's Camry could keep up with it. Also I don’t want to hear about how light it is etc etc. Toyota has no answer to most cars. Nissan has a se-r for the Altima, the Sentra (and the Maxima?). They have the 350z. Soon maybe the Skyline. Nismo makes parts that are not even street legal. Honda has the Si (but Jim! its so slow!). It can beat the shit out of a tC or a Corolla stock. Even the XRS. Subaru is raising 300 hp with their WRX's. Mitsubishi has the Lancer Evolution. The Evo is a performance 4 cylinder (the WRX and the Lancer Evolution are rally cars in case you didn't know). So is XRS (a performance 4 cylinder) , the supposed kick ass Corolla. So why the FUCK is it so slow? HP? Turbo isn’t even in Toyota’s vocabulary."
Someone explained to me that Toyota just shifted their goals; that’s all. They are after the mid aged to older buyers. While that is certainly true; and it makes the most sense without really going into it, you have to realize the tuners of today are the car buyers of tomorrow. All the time people decided to fade out of the scene and go another way; almost everyone does in the end. Lets say you have a steady job, and want to buy a car. If you've been tuning Honda/Acura your whole life, why the hell would you leave the company? If you've had so much fun with one company’s cars (and if they were reliable for you) why would you leave them on a dime? When people get out of the tuning world, it seems like most of the time they just buy a car that’s pretty powerful out of the gate; however, if they have left the brand they aren’t going to buy a Lexus or Acura.
I still love toyota, but I don't think they love me.
TRD in the states is straight stupid. All they sell for the supra now is brakepads and air filters. Go to TRD's japan site, and they are STILL selling the 3000GT kit. Sure they've stopped selling the wheels and some wings, but there is STILL a ton of parts to buy.
If I had a supra... i'm thinking a small vinyl on the side skirts that says.....
Supra... the car Toyota doesn't care about anymore.
Last edited by MongolPup; 10-31-2006 at 09:27 PM.
trd sells stuff for a 3000gt... hrmm interesting since a 3000gt is a mitsu
um no, your wrong, its a body kit for the supra, called the 3000gt.Originally Posted by accordm3
I have been looking for the offical pics of the new supra but can't find them anymore, i have seen those old ones for about 2 years now of the concepts, but the pic im lookin for is the red one that has the article in the posting!
yeah, ill never own a supra either, i would rather have a 99vr4!! haha
sorry, but i would! haha
90 celica GT-FOUR
I would drive a 3000.Originally Posted by EKnight
And only 4k left? Try 2000 made. lol
I've actually thought their prices have been slowly declining. I know people who've been trying to sell their supras for year and they keep decreasing their prices to get them to sell. I don't think it's been a drastic change though. But I don't know what's gonna happen in the future. It really doesn't matter to me b/c I would never sell me car anyhow.
I have a feeling the new supra will go in the same exact fashion as the old. They'll open the line for a few years hoping it'll catch the tail end of the new "muscle car" era and it will blow up in their faces. They'll be overpriced for the average consumer and wont sell. Then... 5-ish years later down the road, after toyota takes a shot to the wallet, the resale values will be rediculous
Honestly... I dont believe it until i see it in car and driver, motortrend, road & track, or something along those lines. Frankly, toyota is better off pioneering in the hybrid industry. I'd be more likely to buy a new prius 2 or 3 years down the road.
p.s. No the resale will not be affected by the new gen... It'll be gas prices if anything.
ahh, here we go, sorry just thought i would copy and paste it over here.......
According to Road & Track, this is the official 2007 Toyota Supra. There will be two versions available, a convertible with folding hard tops and the standard coupe. The convertible will come equip with a 3.5 V6 (from the Lexus GS350 and IS350) pushing 350 hp and 275 lb-ft of torque. The coupe will be challenging other super cars with the 5.0 v8 that pushes 450 hp and 383 lb-ft of torque. The convertible is not made to withstand that much horsepower without chassis damage so the v8 will only be available in the coupe. The coupe should be priced at right around $50,000 and the convertible is around the $40,000 mark. Toyota is expecting to target the convertible towards the Nissan 350Z and the coupe at the all new Nissan GT-R.
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90 celica GT-FOUR
hmm I wonder how that V8 is going to sound, I love the sound of the MKIV.. I just wonder if Toyota will be able to top the previous Supra.Originally Posted by EKnight
Either way I am moreso interested to see what the Supra guys will do with that V6 and V8 than the actual car. Between the Supra, GT-R and G37 Coupe coming out I'd go with the one that has the most potential.
ok, didn't see the pic in the thread so here....
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90 celica GT-FOUR
Yeah i saw the toyota s2000(the tail-lights) on the net a while ago... Still, i dont believe it until i see it with my own eyes. I've lost count of how many f'n cocktease(sorry) concepts have come out over the last few years.Originally Posted by EKnight
Originally Posted by EKnight
I take back my vote!!! IF they do come out with a new supra.....it best not look like this....this is FUGLY....like for serious...I hate my car, but I would rather have it then this! If anything it might make the value of the old ones hold steady.....
Concepts though......you just dont know..
the convo looks wayy too much like an s2000 from the rear.. im with chris until i see it with my own eyes.. i dont believe it
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looks like an s2000 from the back, and corvette hood and headlights and a g35 front bumper.
there were about 12K mkiv supras made in all..
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i kept a close watch on supra prices for a while because i was interested in getting one untill i decided a truck would be smarter. for the automatics price is slowly dropping, but for 6spd's the price seems to be hold its value really really well. then you have all the "really low mileage" and hardtop and single turbo, those dont really count they have their own markets. i dont think the new supra will matter, people are always going to love the MKIV, including myself. odds are i will never own one, but hey ill live with it.
i keep falling in love with the older supras... ive gotten to where i appreciate the mk3s almost more than i do the mk4s..
As soon as i can give rep again... it's going to you for that comment.Originally Posted by green91
mk3s all the way
2JZ > 5.0 V8
And that concept looks pretty ugly, I think. It SORT OF retains some of the lines that the MKIV held, but overall, just looks too wierd. I'm not a fan of 2002+ production cars anyways.
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What's really going to make the price drop is the consumer discovering the older versions (especially the MK III). Mechanically, the MK III is almost identical, it just doesn't stand out as much visually as the MK IV.
The MK II has grown on me as far as appearence, and for a Supra customer that wants handling over power, it's the way to go.
As far as the Celica Supra, well, that's just flat-out old school and already rare as it is.
It just looks like a giant clusterfuck of a tiburon, G35, & S2000 from all the different pictures Ive seen of it.. Hopefully the real verson will do a bit better.. or Toyota will pull it as quick as they debut it..
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I think the supra will help the value of the older ones. As the new generation of tuners see the powerhouse that the new Supra is they will be doing whatever they can to get there hands on any car with the supra name, thus making them more popular. When civics hit there prime we all started to see more and more of the older civics hitting the streets and "coming back to life". When the people that have forgotten about the Supra or werent lucky enough to know what a beast it was see what a beast the new one is, there research will point them in the direction of all the older Supras and they will see that 50,000+ dollars does not need to be spent to drive a car with the Supra name.
not to start a pissing war, but toyota will never have another supra, IF they do and its worth a shit LEXUS will get. They could bring back the supra like the did the MR-2 but considering what a joke that would be im sure we will be stuck with the old ones.
Also the prices are about the same if not lower. when i bought my 98 in 98 it was $40K Now all the prices of other cars are catching up. I have bought and sold quite a few of these cars. Rule of thumb if you can get one for aound 20K you stole it.
You realize that they most likely ARE going to release the new supra right? Theres going to be a hardtop and a drop top. I believe one of them is v8 while the other shares an engine with the new is.Originally Posted by KERR
It's all over the internet and was in an issue of motortrend... or one of the other major magazines like car and driver or road and track... i get pretty much all of them so it tends to blur together... Regardless... it was about a month ago confirming the concept on page 2 as the official "new supra".
Just got a call from a buddy who works at toyota.Originally Posted by KERR
They had a floor meeting today and released specs on the 2008 supra that will be released in 07.
Made to compete with the 350z it will have 2 trims, a v6 and a v8. And a hardtop and hardtop convertible.
If you say so, ill go by the dealer today and see what they say, if its true ill buy oneOriginally Posted by HalfBaked
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Good plan. Shit man, that will make your IV so gay and slow.Originally Posted by KERR
Tell you what. I'll go ahead and take it off your hands, and maybe throw in a couple hundred dollars or something. You know, head off the fed's.
I think alot of you underestimate toyota. Toyota has NEVER been one to have a knee-jerk car release, everything is thoroughly designed, tested, researched and they already know how many will sell before its even released.
Originally Posted by TIGERJC
It all depends on if the NEW supra is BETTER than the OLD supra.
Look at the RX-8, it didn't hurt FD3S RX-7 values because the FD is still a beeter looking and performing car than the RX-8.
If the new Supra is awesome, then the value will start to drop, especially when the old supra owners want to quickly pawn-off their old ones to get a new one.