ECLIPSES???

[Evil Goat]

^ i was gonna say that....if youre buying a 3/4g eclipse you arent buying for performance thats for sure, if youre gonna make it a low and slow show car then by all means go for it, if you want performance and something to spank some ass with go for a 1g/2g gs-t/gsx/tsi/tsi awd...theres a guy on gadsm w/ a 3g v6 w/ every bolt on imaginable and has been tuned w/ a wideband o2 and still can only manage 14 second time slips (not even fast enough to outrun your avg swapped honda hatch)...i also have a friend w/ a 3g 4g64 w/ a bolt on turbo kit (not sure on the size, but its an okay kit) w/ all supporting mods and still cant muster anything better than 14's, theyre two great drivers who are working on terrible platforms....theyre simply not worth it performance wise

[imbosile]

^ i was gonna say that....if youre buying a 3/4g eclipse you arent buying for performance thats for sure, if youre gonna make it a low and slow show car then by all means go for it, if you want performance and something to spank some ass with go for a 1g/2g gs-t/gsx/tsi/tsi awd...theres a guy on gadsm w/ a 3g v6 w/ every bolt on imaginable and has been tuned w/ a wideband o2 and still can only manage 14 second time slips (not even fast enough to outrun your avg swapped honda hatch)...i also have a friend w/ a 3g 4g64 w/ a bolt on turbo kit (not sure on the size, but its an okay kit) w/ all supporting mods and still cant muster anything better than 14's, theyre two great drivers who are working on terrible platforms....theyre simply not worth it performance wise

yep, that pretty much hits the nail on the head. It would be nice if they werent such heavy ass cars.