SE-R and the spec-v are nice but they just don't pull like others, ok...for example, one of the cons about it is the redline, the 6 speed mt is cool but the gearing sucks ass, the variable valve timing on the spec-v is ok but what good is it if you can only ride it for like 1k rpm when it engages, the redline is too close, then the aftermarket parts, not a big selection. I have driven a 2002 Sentra SE-R Spec-V and up against a stock integra gsr, the gsr pulled all day long on a one-on-one stop, 20mph roll, and 60mph drop. Sorry, not ragging on the sentras, just my opinion on those, I don't have all the knowledge as of you guys but just my first hand experience. And no the '02 se-r is not the only one I have driven.