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    Exclamation F22B and H23A1

    Whats the difference between the two except for displacement, and would the turbo F22B be as good as turbo H23A1. I was gonna drop a H23A1 into my 97 Accord and turbo it but cant find a decent engine but anyways I'm still lookin' in case anybody got one so can somebody answer my question please thanks

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    Not sure if this will help, don't know too much about H and F series but the H23a1 is a lil bigger I believe in displacement 2.3L and the F22 is 2.2. Both have low compression already too...sorry if that didn't help.

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    H23's are non vtec engines. you would gain more torque if you boosted that engine. F22 are single cam. I would boost the f22, and also has good torque numbers. now, if money isnt an issue, h23 for the monster torque.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 95boostedteg
    H23's are non vtec engines. you would gain more torque if you boosted that engine. F22 are single cam. I would boost the f22, and also has good torque numbers. now, if money isnt an issue, h23 for the monster torque.
    lol dude, F22B is DOHC non-vtec also man

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    Quote Originally Posted by krucial7integra
    lol dude, F22B is DOHC non-vtec also man
    lol. you're right. was thinking of the f22A.

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    there aint much different... i got a h23 accord... i took out the f22... i have the headers from my f22 on the h23 and and also the intake .. h23 has more hp and more torque... this probably dont even help you out.. lol

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    F22 has less hp and torque to start off with... the crank and rods are the same... so internally the H23 and F22 are the same...

    H23 has larger displacement, more torque, more hp. if you can get either one for the same price.. get the H23. but if the F22 is cheaper go with that.

    i would go with the H23 and put a H22 head on it... its easier than putting a H22 head on the F22 block

    the F22 also has iron sleeves which makes it easier to install forged pistons without resleeving like the H22 and H23


    here's some information i found
    Deck Height

    H22A4 Block = 8.643

    H22A block = 8.643

    H23A block = 8.643

    H23A1 block = 8.643

    F22 block = 8.643

    F23 block = 8.643

    F20B block = 8.643

    Bore

    H22A4 Block = 87mm/3.425

    H22A block = 87mm/3.425

    H23A block = 87mm/3.425

    H23A1 block = 87mm/3.425

    F22 block = 85mm/3.346

    F23 block = 86mm/3.385

    F20B = 85mm/3.346

    Note:

    Due to various available piston diameters (A/B) actual bore diameter may vary

    Rods

    Length

    H22A4 = 5.633

    H22A = 5.633

    H23A = 5.572

    H23A1 = 5.572

    F22 = 5.572

    F23 = 5.551

    F20B = 5.709

    Width

    H22A4 = .935

    H22A = .935

    H23A = .935

    H23A1 = .935

    F22 = .935

    F23 = .780

    F20B = .935

    BE Bore

    H22A4 = 2.008

    H22A = 2.008

    H23A = 2.008

    H23A1 = 2.008

    F22 = 2.008

    F23 = 1.890

    F20B = 1.890

    Pin Bore

    H22A4 =

    H22A = .8649-.8654

    H23A =

    H23A1 = .8649-.8654

    F22 = .8649-.8654

    F23 = .8649-.8654

    F20B =

    Pistons

    Bore

    H22A4 = 87mm/3.425

    H22A = 87mm/3.425

    H23A = 87mm/3.425

    H23A1 = 87mm/3.425

    F22 = 85mm/3.346

    F23 = 86mm/3.385

    F20B = 85mm/3.346

    Note:

    actual diameter may vary depending on code of piston (ie, A B)

    Compression Height

    H22A4 = 1.221

    H22A = 1.221

    H23A = 1.203

    H23A1 = 1.203

    F22A1 = 1.203

    F22A4 = 1.203

    F23A1 = 1.181

    F20B = 1.221

    Dome Volume

    H22A4 =

    H22A =

    H23A =

    H23A1 =

    F22A1 =

    F22A4 =

    F23A1 =

    F23A4 =

    F23A5 = -18cc

    F20B =

    Wrist Pin Diameter

    H22A4 = .866

    H22A = .866

    H23A = .866

    H23A1 = .866

    F22 = .866

    F23 = .866

    F20B = .866

    Crankshafts

    Stroke

    H22A4 = 90.7mm/3.570

    H22A = 90.7mm/3.570

    H23A = 95mm/3.740

    H23A1 = 95mm/3.740

    F22 = 95mm/3.740

    F23 = 97mm/3.818

    F20B = 88mm/3.464

    Main Journal Diameter

    H22A4 = 55mm

    H22A4 = 50mm (1997 Only)

    H22A = 50mm

    H23A = 55mm

    H23A1 = 50mm

    F22 = 50mm

    F23 = 55mm

    F20B = 55mm

    Rod Journal Diameter

    H22A4 = 1.888

    H22A = 1.888

    H23A = 1.888

    H23A1 = 1.888

    F22 = 1.888

    F23 = 1.771

    F20B = 1.771

    Cylinder Heads

    Combustion Chamber Volume

    H22A4 = 53.8cc

    H22A = 53.8cc

    H23A = 53.8cc

    H23A1 = 50cc

    F22A1 = 50cc

    F22A4 = 50cc

    F23A1 = 50cc

    F23A4 = 50cc

    F23A5 = 50cc

    F20B =

    Intake Valve Diameter

    H22A4 = 35mm

    H22A = 35mm

    H23A = 35mm

    H23A1 = 34mm

    F22 = 34mm

    F23 = 34mm

    F20B = 34mm

    Exhaust Valve Diameter

    H22A4 = 30mm

    H22A = 30mm

    H23A = 30mm

    H23A1 = 29mm

    F22 = 29mm

    F23 = 29mm

    F20B = 29mm

    Head Gaskets

    Bore

    H22A4 = 88mm

    H22A = 88mm

    H23A = 88mm

    H23A1 = 88mm

    F22 = 86mm

    F23 = 87mm

    F20B = 86mm

    Thickness

    H22A4 = .026

    H22A = .026

    H23A = .026

    H23A1 = .026

    F22 = .026

    F23 = .026

    F20B = .026

    Note:

    Gasket thickness measured after crush

    94 Supra= 500rwhp

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    Quote Originally Posted by 93H22ACX
    F22 has less hp and torque to start off with... the crank and rods are the same... so internally the H23 and F22 are the same...

    H23 has larger displacement, more torque, more hp. if you can get either one for the same price.. get the H23. but if the F22 is cheaper go with that.

    i would go with the H23 and put a H22 head on it... its easier than putting a H22 head on the F22 block

    the F22 also has iron sleeves which makes it easier to install forged pistons without resleeving like the H22 and H23


    here's some information i found
    Deck Height

    H22A4 Block = 8.643

    H22A block = 8.643

    H23A block = 8.643

    H23A1 block = 8.643

    F22 block = 8.643

    F23 block = 8.643

    F20B block = 8.643

    Bore

    H22A4 Block = 87mm/3.425

    H22A block = 87mm/3.425

    H23A block = 87mm/3.425

    H23A1 block = 87mm/3.425

    F22 block = 85mm/3.346

    F23 block = 86mm/3.385

    F20B = 85mm/3.346

    Note:

    Due to various available piston diameters (A/B) actual bore diameter may vary

    Rods

    Length

    H22A4 = 5.633

    H22A = 5.633

    H23A = 5.572

    H23A1 = 5.572

    F22 = 5.572

    F23 = 5.551

    F20B = 5.709

    Width

    H22A4 = .935

    H22A = .935

    H23A = .935

    H23A1 = .935

    F22 = .935

    F23 = .780

    F20B = .935

    BE Bore

    H22A4 = 2.008

    H22A = 2.008

    H23A = 2.008

    H23A1 = 2.008

    F22 = 2.008

    F23 = 1.890

    F20B = 1.890

    Pin Bore

    H22A4 =

    H22A = .8649-.8654

    H23A =

    H23A1 = .8649-.8654

    F22 = .8649-.8654

    F23 = .8649-.8654

    F20B =

    Pistons

    Bore

    H22A4 = 87mm/3.425

    H22A = 87mm/3.425

    H23A = 87mm/3.425

    H23A1 = 87mm/3.425

    F22 = 85mm/3.346

    F23 = 86mm/3.385

    F20B = 85mm/3.346

    Note:

    actual diameter may vary depending on code of piston (ie, A B)

    Compression Height

    H22A4 = 1.221

    H22A = 1.221

    H23A = 1.203

    H23A1 = 1.203

    F22A1 = 1.203

    F22A4 = 1.203

    F23A1 = 1.181

    F20B = 1.221

    Dome Volume

    H22A4 =

    H22A =

    H23A =

    H23A1 =

    F22A1 =

    F22A4 =

    F23A1 =

    F23A4 =

    F23A5 = -18cc

    F20B =

    Wrist Pin Diameter

    H22A4 = .866

    H22A = .866

    H23A = .866

    H23A1 = .866

    F22 = .866

    F23 = .866

    F20B = .866

    Crankshafts

    Stroke

    H22A4 = 90.7mm/3.570

    H22A = 90.7mm/3.570

    H23A = 95mm/3.740

    H23A1 = 95mm/3.740

    F22 = 95mm/3.740

    F23 = 97mm/3.818

    F20B = 88mm/3.464

    Main Journal Diameter

    H22A4 = 55mm

    H22A4 = 50mm (1997 Only)

    H22A = 50mm

    H23A = 55mm

    H23A1 = 50mm

    F22 = 50mm

    F23 = 55mm

    F20B = 55mm

    Rod Journal Diameter

    H22A4 = 1.888

    H22A = 1.888

    H23A = 1.888

    H23A1 = 1.888

    F22 = 1.888

    F23 = 1.771

    F20B = 1.771

    Cylinder Heads

    Combustion Chamber Volume

    H22A4 = 53.8cc

    H22A = 53.8cc

    H23A = 53.8cc

    H23A1 = 50cc

    F22A1 = 50cc

    F22A4 = 50cc

    F23A1 = 50cc

    F23A4 = 50cc

    F23A5 = 50cc

    F20B =

    Intake Valve Diameter

    H22A4 = 35mm

    H22A = 35mm

    H23A = 35mm

    H23A1 = 34mm

    F22 = 34mm

    F23 = 34mm

    F20B = 34mm

    Exhaust Valve Diameter

    H22A4 = 30mm

    H22A = 30mm

    H23A = 30mm

    H23A1 = 29mm

    F22 = 29mm

    F23 = 29mm

    F20B = 29mm

    Head Gaskets

    Bore

    H22A4 = 88mm

    H22A = 88mm

    H23A = 88mm

    H23A1 = 88mm

    F22 = 86mm

    F23 = 87mm

    F20B = 86mm

    Thickness

    H22A4 = .026

    H22A = .026

    H23A = .026

    H23A1 = .026

    F22 = .026

    F23 = .026

    F20B = .026

    Note:

    Gasket thickness measured after crush

    Now this answer does more than help thanks alot

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