yeah he wouldnt bother b/c he owns an S4 if you are looking at a 1.8t, they arent bad cars. And you can whether most would like to admit it or not produce alot of HP with that little motor. Its just easier with an S4 b/c of the 2.7Bi-turbo motor. You can spend 5000$ and get 500hp easy and have all wheel drive. Both are good cars.