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    Default single cam boost or ls swap ?

    so i have a 93 civic coupe. i have an ls motor layin around and i dont know if i wanna throw that in the car or sell it and boost the mini me (d15 block d16 head) that im throwin in the civic tomorrow. any comments or input you got let me know.

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    single cam boost

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    These are my reasons for the SOHC boost answer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmastertech View Post
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    450 WHP
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    These are my reasons for the SOHC boost answer.
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    yea sohc boost it, i was there for that 11.10 run.

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    fuck yall everybody on this single cam bandwagon these days. im ls boosted. no need to post up #s u can find them your self all over the site.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barefoot View Post
    fuck yall everybody on this single cam bandwagon these days. im ls boosted. no need to post up #s u can find them your self all over the site.
    correct me if im wrong but from what i read ls boost wasnt a option

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLo_MKIII View Post
    correct me if im wrong but from what i read ls boost wasnt a option
    stop knit picking I read the shit I know the option and I gave him a 3rd. Don't like it owell.

    lol sry typing the phone still getting used it to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barefoot View Post
    No nit picking I read the shit I know the option and I gave him a 3rd. Don't like it owell.
    just saying no need to get defensive...

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    "If you don't" boost that single cam. "the fuck you"



    Boost d ftmfw. DAMN!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmastertech View Post
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    450 WHP
    32 mpg on the street

    These are my reasons for the SOHC boost answer.

    this guy is talking about a stock motor vs a stock motor turbo

    Not a Full built G's tied into it....

    I would never spend the money you did to build a SOHC...

    Either H2b Turbo
    K swap Turbo


    Cheap bastards

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASE*Tech View Post
    this guy is talking about a stock motor vs a stock motor turbo

    Not a Full built G's tied into it....

    I would never spend the money you did to build a SOHC...

    Either H2b Turbo
    K swap Turbo


    Cheap bastards


    he is not fully built bro.If he was fully built he would be around the 700hp range and be running mid 9's rods+pistons+turbo=win win
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    I drive a low is3 just so it gives me a reason to drive super slow on these rough ga roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stay_up View Post
    he is not fully built bro.If he was fully built he would be around the 700hp range and be running mid 9's rods+pistons+turbo=win win
    NO stock SOHC will take 450 HP

    turd

    Hell blew up a Great running stock SOHC at 200hp

    not once but many times
    Last edited by Tech5; 11-25-2009 at 11:52 PM.

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    ill be back later...this thread may get tasty

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhadleyh View Post
    ill be back later...this thread may get tasty

    If your looking for something to taste I got something right here

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    Boosted SOHC will be more bang for your buck. Will make more power then LS and be more fun on streets.

    I would do headstuds just to be safe. Dseries like to blow headgaskets when boosted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Main Stream View Post
    Boosted SOHC will be more bang for your buck. Will make more power then LS and be more fun on streets.

    I would do headstuds just to be safe. Dseries like to blow headgaskets when boosted.

    and slinging rods

    Ls boosted would make more power then a sohc boosted anyday!

    But to the OP I would do a LS swap and turbo later

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    boosted single FTW!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASE*Tech View Post
    and slinging rods

    Ls boosted would make more power then a sohc boosted anyday!

    But to the OP I would do a LS swap and turbo later
    Slinging rods

    Okay the LS TURBO (not NA LS like OP said) could make about 30-50whp more stock then a dseries but you have to factor in the price of a tranny, axles, shift linkage. etc

    The dseries is plenty strong. Scotty (scttydb411) has tried many times to blow his BONE STOCK 140k mile Y7 up on the dyno and it is still going strong (255whp). I have turned up the boost on my daily to 15psi when it was only tuned for 9psi (motor was already making funny noise and i didn't care). Still made 220whp the day I pulled it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Main Stream View Post
    Slinging rods

    Okay the LS TURBO (not NA LS like OP said) could make about 30-50whp more stock then a dseries but you have to factor in the price of a tranny, axles, shift linkage. etc

    The dseries is plenty strong. Scotty (scttydb411) has tried many times to blow his BONE STOCK 140k mile Y7 up on the dyno and it is still going strong (255whp). I have turned up the boost on my daily to 15psi when it was only tuned for 9psi (motor was already making funny noise and i didn't care). Still made 220whp the day I pulled it out.
    X2
    I was in the dilema, and Its only how you drive it and tuned is the key! My first boosted d had 202k and it was a d15b7 and made 190/181 at 9 psi Stock internals. Ran for a year( thats with me racing street light to street light and racing it on the track and Charles launching like a mofo!) It lasted a year, and the only reason it blew was because I was doing 155mph going to Columbus and lost oil and cracked a sleeve.
    So say D..... Also in the long run cheaper to fix. I rather have a boosted d then my ls/v. Maintence prices on a ls are cheaper then d series. Also D has gets better gas.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Barefoot View Post
    fuck yall everybody on this single cam bandwagon these days. im ls boosted. no need to post up #s u can find them your self all over the site.
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    you simply can't beat a boosted D on a power to cost ratio....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Main Stream View Post
    Boosted SOHC will be more bang for your buck. Will make more power then LS and be more fun on streets.

    I would do headstuds just to be safe. Dseries like to blow headgaskets when boosted.
    X2 on the studs, Good advice!

    Quote Originally Posted by ASE*Tech View Post
    this guy is talking about a stock motor vs a stock motor turbo

    Not a Full built G's tied into it....

    I would never spend the money you did to build a SOHC...

    Either H2b Turbo
    K swap Turbo


    Cheap bastards
    Actually it isnt a fully built engine, just some pistons and rods that had about 30000 miles on them, a set of arp head studs, and a blockguard. The rods had to be resized due to someone not checking oil and heating up a bearing a little. I didnt even pull the crank out of the block because it ran so good so it even has the original main bearings. You sound so hateful calling everyone "cheap bastards". There is nothing wrong with being frugal and saving a few dollars. A lot of people are having to scale back on spending due to the economy and paying bills. I would rather see someone spend a few dollars wisely and enjoy their setup than to spend a lot of hard earned money and not be able to enjoy it because they are constantly worried about breaking something and then not having the money to fix it. I can call 3 people and get a block right now if I break the one I am currently using. I cant do that with a B series.

    Quote Originally Posted by ASE*Tech View Post
    NO stock SOHC will take 450 HP

    turd

    Hell Scotty blew up a Great running stock SOHC at 200hp

    not once but many times
    I dont know if a stock LS would take 450 WHP either I blew up a few good running D series engines because I would push them to the limit to see how far they could go. This gave me the experience that has allowed me to take a stock sleeved, stock head D series to the level that it is now. Plus, my customers can count on my experience to help them with their vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmastertech View Post
    X2 on the studs, Good advice!



    Actually it isnt a fully built engine, just some pistons and rods that had about 30000 miles on them, a set of arp head studs, and a blockguard. The rods had to be resized due to someone not checking oil and heating up a bearing a little. I didnt even pull the crank out of the block because it ran so good so it even has the original main bearings. You sound so hateful calling everyone "cheap bastards". There is nothing wrong with being frugal and saving a few dollars. A lot of people are having to scale back on spending due to the economy and paying bills. I would rather see someone spend a few dollars wisely and enjoy their setup than to spend a lot of hard earned money and not be able to enjoy it because they are constantly worried about breaking something and then not having the money to fix it. I can call 3 people and get a block right now if I break the one I am currently using. I cant do that with a B series.



    I dont know if a stock LS would take 450 WHP either I blew up a few good running D series engines because I would push them to the limit to see how far they could go. This gave me the experience that has allowed me to take a stock sleeved, stock head D series to the level that it is now. Plus, my customers can count on my experience to help them with their vehicles.

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    Its really just a personal opinion... I would chose the SOHC

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmastertech View Post
    X2 on the studs, Good advice!



    Actually it isnt a fully built engine, just some pistons and rods that had about 30000 miles on them, a set of arp head studs, and a blockguard. The rods had to be resized due to someone not checking oil and heating up a bearing a little. I didnt even pull the crank out of the block because it ran so good so it even has the original main bearings. You sound so hateful calling everyone "cheap bastards". There is nothing wrong with being frugal and saving a few dollars. A lot of people are having to scale back on spending due to the economy and paying bills. I would rather see someone spend a few dollars wisely and enjoy their setup than to spend a lot of hard earned money and not be able to enjoy it because they are constantly worried about breaking something and then not having the money to fix it. I can call 3 people and get a block right now if I break the one I am currently using. I cant do that with a B series.



    I dont know if a stock LS would take 450 WHP either I blew up a few good running D series engines because I would push them to the limit to see how far they could go. This gave me the experience that has allowed me to take a stock sleeved, stock head D series to the level that it is now. Plus, my customers can count on my experience to help them with their vehicles.

    Have a nice day and a good Thanksgiving!
    You got to be one of the on IA where in the hell did i say a stock LS will hold 450 hp???

    you took all that time to type for nothin

    You posted your first post in here with your power and times like saying this guy could take his stock SOHC to that power...

    Good luck getting 212 hp with a stock D series with it lasting

    we are talking about a stock LS Vs a Stock D series Turbo... can you understand what he wrote

    I would take his money and b swap that car and later turbo it and he could get more power out of a LS turbo (STOCK)
    Vs A STOCK D series any day!!


    You understand or do I need to call you ?
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    I had a bone stock D16 with a turbo that had 226 whp and drove it for over 10000 miles before I put pistons and rods in it to make me feel better about turning it up. Just sayin.


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    ive personally had a boosted ls that was tuned on 12lbs and made 270 something and ran 12.7's on drag radials bogging and also had a d16y8 completely stock other the 500 dollars in rods/pistons and headstuds that made 360hp and 280trq on 20lbs and pump gas that ran 11.80's you dumb fuckers do the math! Had 1000 in the ls swap plus another 1500 for all the turbo stuff and another 500 for the tune. Had 400 for the d series swap, 500 to build it and 800 in turbo stuff plus 420 to tune it.....WHICH CAME OUT BETTER?!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmastertech View Post
    I had a bone stock D16 with a turbo that had 226 whp and drove it for over 10000 miles before I put pistons and rods in it to make me feel better about turning it up. Just sayin.

    want a cookie or a dill dough?

    I had a "


    Who cares what you had , MASTERMEOFF

    1 out of 10 lasted that long you got very lucky and you know it too that is why you went threw it... 10K is not a LONG time. Hell I drive 3K miles a Month..So to take a perfect running motor to only last 10K miles is a waste!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmastertech View Post
    I had a bone stock D16 with a turbo that had 226 whp and drove it for over 10000 miles before I put pistons and rods in it to make me feel better about turning it up. Just sayin.
    oh and before the motor was built i had 254whp for 9 months till i only had 1 qt. of oil and spun a rod bearing
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    Quote Originally Posted by -S Double C- View Post
    ive personally had a boosted ls that was tuned on 12lbs and made 270 something and ran 12.7's on drag radials and also had a d16y8 completely stock other the 500 dollars in rods/pistons and headstuds that made 360hp and 280trq on 20lbs and pump gas that ran 11.80's you dumb fuckers do the math! Had 1000 in the ls swap plus another 1500 for all the turbo stuff and another 500 for the tune. Had 400 for the d series swap, 500 to build it and 800 in turbo stuff plus 420 to tune it.....WHICH CAME OUT BETTER?!!!!!
    How is 270 hp running 12.7's
    and one running 360 hp running 11.80???


    Hummm dont add up right my friend..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASE*Tech View Post
    How is 270 hp running 12.7's
    and one running 360 hp running 11.80???


    Hummm dont add up right my friend..

    Trying to type some BS to get reps ok I am sending you some
    I hear yah you bad ass mr ase technician you, you ever heard of TRACTION why your talking all this shit what do you run down the track? hmm? I had the slips of what i ran when i sold the teg that ran 12.70's the d series was replaced by a sleeved 84mm ls/vtec. I dont give a FUCK about no damn reps dude, BIG DEAL does it make your dick hard to neg rep someone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASE*Tech View Post
    want a cookie or a dill dough?

    I had a "


    Who cares what you had , MASTERMEOFF

    1 out of 10 lasted that long you got very lucky and you know it too that is why you went threw it... 10K is not a LONG time. Hell I drive 3K miles a Month..So to take a perfect running motor to only last 10K miles is a waste!
    Good tuning, is key, my friend. Like I stated, I wanted to turn it up so I felt pistons and rods would be good insurance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmastertech View Post
    Good tuning, is key, my friend. Like I stated, I wanted to turn it up so I felt pistons and rods would be good insurance.
    lolol... true true .....

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    D is the new B, that is all....
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