Miata coilovers

[speedminded]

i'm sorry, but it really depends on the person. I've ridden on shock/spring combos and i've ridden on a nice coil-over set-up. but i could really care less how the ride was. the stock suspension on my car now is a little bit better than the skunk2 pros on my integra and that's not saying much. forcing your opinion on how a car's ride needs to be should just stay advice, not commands.
if he wants a good quality ride, he may take the advice on the shock/spring combo. if he wants to slam it, he'll probably just ignore your "commands"

Define "nice coil-over setup". I've driven everything on a Honda from stock with springs to $1,500 setups to over $1,400 PER CORNER...on a Civic/Integra! I won't even get into the BMW setups. Anyone that doesn't think quality & well maintained suspension doesn't matter 100% of the time the car is moving then they haven't been in a car that is properly setup.

Doesn't mean he has to go out and buy Moton or Ohlin but with a no-name coil-over dampener you most likely won't get customer service or a suitable warranty with it. I've seen so many coil-overs straight out of the box break dampener/rebound adjustment knobs as soon as they are installed. It's highly unlikely they will replace it.

I always push Tein full coil-over setups but personally I'd get koni yellows & ground control (or eibach springs with no name sleeve). I know you can find used sets from people that have upgraded to high quality coil-over dampers. Hell, for $700 I'm sure you can find used high quality coil-overs from the race/spec miata forums. They may be used but they are probably better than the new no-names plus many of the higher end dampeners are rebuildable so they'll virtually last forever.

[SandM]

Define "nice coil-over setup". I've driven everything on a Honda from stock with springs to $1,500 setups to over $1,400 PER CORNER...on a Civic/Integra! I won't even get into the BMW setups. Anyone that doesn't think quality & well maintained suspension doesn't matter 100% of the time the car is moving then they haven't been in a car that is properly setup.

Doesn't mean he has to go out and buy Moton or Ohlin but with a no-name coil-over dampener you most likely won't get customer service or a suitable warranty with it. I've seen so many coil-overs straight out of the box break dampener/rebound adjustment knobs as soon as they are installed. It's highly unlikely they will replace it.

Personally I'd get koni yellows & ground control (or eibach springs with no name sleeve). I know you can find used sets from people that have upgraded to high quality coil-over dampers. Hell, for $700 I'm sure you can find used high quality coil-overs from the race/spec miata forums. They may be used but they are probably better than the new no-names plus many of the higher end dampeners are rebuildable so they'll virtually last forever.

my point was never to discredit anyone and their experience with a high-quality coil-over setup, nor to say that a high quality coil-over setup doesn't matter. I was referring to daily driving. I was simply stating that whether the person wants supreme ride quality or amazing handling is up to them. As the OP stated,

and the car is a daily driver so im not looking to spend like 2000 for coilovers. i just wanna be lower

he really just wants the car lower (it's already on springs if i'm correct).

[speedminded]

my point was never to discredit anyone and their experience with a high-quality coil-over setup, nor to say that a high quality coil-over setup doesn't matter. I was referring to daily driving. I was simply stating that whether the person wants supreme ride quality or amazing handling is up to them. As the OP stated,
he really just wants the car lower (it's already on springs if i'm correct).

The only people that say that are the ones that aren't willing or can't invest into a quality setup.

He posted a new $650 setup. He should invest that into a higher quality used setup.

[SandM]

The only people that say that are the ones that aren't willing or can't invest into a quality setup.

He posted a new $650 setup. He should invest that into a higher quality used setup.

I never said that a used set-up was a bad idea.
And i apologize if I have offended you saying that I don't feel like dumping useless money into my DD when I could easily just save it to put into my toy. That's just how my priorities are arranged. As far as my toy is concerned, I would never toss a bullshit suspension set-up under it just so I can achieve a small improvement. If I'm going to do it, I'll do it right. Hence the not being able to invest in a quality setup. Hell yea, right now I can't afford the suspension I want. Once again, this is why my suspension is still stock.

[speedminded]

I never said that a used set-up was a bad idea.
And i apologize if I have offended you saying that I don't feel like dumping useless money into my DD when I could easily just save it to put into my toy. That's just how my priorities are arranged. As far as my toy is concerned, I would never toss a bullshit suspension set-up under it just so I can achieve a small improvement. If I'm going to do it, I'll do it right. Hence the not being able to invest in a quality setup. Hell yea, right now I can't afford the suspension I want. Once again, this is why my suspension is still stock.

$650 is $650 whether you spend it on coil-overs or junior bacon cheeseburgers. You can spend $100 on a steak or you can feed 100 people hamburgers with it...what is the better value? Why not get the steak at the cost of hamburger? You can get higher quality setups used for the cost of the no-name coil-over.

[SandM]

$650 is $650 whether you spend it on coil-overs or junior bacon cheeseburgers. You can spend $100 on a steak or you can feed 100 people hamburgers with it...what is the better value? Why not get the steak at the cost of hamburger? You can get higher quality setups used for the cost of the no-name coil-over.

I never said that a used set-up was a bad idea.

wait, what?

[speedminded]

wait, what?

Do you really need me to break this down for you even further?

I never said that a used set-up was a bad idea.
And i apologize if I have offended you saying that I don't feel like dumping useless money into my DD when I could easily just save it to put into my toy. That's just how my priorities are arranged.

Useless money? You're not offending me...$650 is $650, no matter how you spend it.

As far as my toy is concerned, I would never toss a bullshit suspension set-up under it just so I can achieve a small improvement.

Why when for the SAME price you can have better?

If I'm going to do it, I'll do it right. Hence the not being able to invest in a quality setup. Hell yea, right now I can't afford the suspension I want. Once again, this is why my suspension is still stock.

If--someone--can--spend--650--dollars--on--new--suspension--then--that--person--can--spend--the--exact--same--650--dollars--on--better--used--suspension.

It has nothing to do with priorities or willingness to spend anymore because it's the same price, give or take a small bit. The people that have replied logically have been there, done that, bought the sound track and the t-shirt. Plus they've also fixed other peoples bad purchase mistakes.