I'm trying to point him to shock/springs. There's quite a few for the miata that lower it a good bit but aren't that bad. On a first gen he's going to be riding the bump stops in the rears either way so it can only go so low regardless. My other attempt was to try to keep him from putting it in the dirt and fucking up a perfectly good car. Of course all the honda kids these days don't think a car is done unless its riding on 0 offset knockoffs and rubbing on every corner with retarded amounts of camber. And not to talk shit but the SRT 4 was the only car you listed even close to even a half decent suspension. Stock shocks with anything but stock springs is pointless, Illuminas suck, and AGX's are barely adequate with anything other than low spring rates. My rant wasn't as much directed to you or him, I'm just tired of everyone who hasn't ever had a truly good suspension say it doesn't matter unless you're racing the car. My DD BMW does see some track time but its 90% my street car and has an H&R Cup suspension with all urethane bushings in everything on the car and everything is now adjustable. It rides 10x better on the street than a stock E30 and handles far beyond even an M3.