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    Default GSR auto vs LS Auto tranny

    I know there "should" be a difference in the gearing BUT does anyone know FOR SURE if the auto GSR transmission is different than a US automatic transmission? I have read tons of articles saying that the only difference is in the shift points programed in the ECU/TCM.. And then other articles saying they are different all together..

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    ive had to get this question answered before to friends in the field. never got a real clear yes, no, or documentation. so i would like to know also.


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    I know someone who put a b16 auto in his teg and it was a hell of difference in gearing, idk about the gsr one though
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    didnt even know gsr's came in auto

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    only in japan land

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    good question.. lemme know when u find out!
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    I will look it up tomorrow at work and let you know.
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    dude i looked for 4 hours and couldnt find anything on the gear ratios for a auto jdm gsr tranny! i learned so much about the s80/y80 manual trannys but nothing about the auto except the usdm ones. i hope someone can come up with something

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    Yea its unreal that its so hard to answer this question.. I found a post saying that gsr, ls, b16 automatics are the same...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyD1919 View Post
    Yea its unreal that its so hard to answer this question.. I found a post saying that gsr, ls, b16 automatics are the same...
    see thats what i was told but couldnt find proof anywhere.


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    Errr...tried to look them up today, but I need the part numbers for the mission. So back to the service manuals to get those numbers and then back to the research.

    I know the USDM auto LS OBD1 mission is a 20021-P78-___, but still need to look up the others to confirm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKOBD View Post
    Errr...tried to look them up today, but I need the part numbers for the mission. So back to the service manuals to get those numbers and then back to the research.

    I know the USDM auto LS OBD1 mission is a 20021-P78-___, but still need to look up the others to confirm.
    i got the usdm part number finding the jdm for is being a pain in the ass. i even emailed a few importers to see if they know by any chance. so far not a single reply.


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    jdm gsr is 37820-P72-901 still trying to confirm this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barefoot View Post
    jdm gsr is 37820-P72-901 still trying to confirm this.
    Yeah, that is the part number for the ECU. I have a couple of those at my house as well as a couple B16 autos too. The problem is that I need the mission assembly part numbers. The auto LS part number for OBD2b is 20021-PGA-A10. I know the 20021 prefix is for automatic transmissions. Just as the 20011- prefix is for manual transmissions. 37820 is the prefix for ecus., etc.

    So I searched through the 20021 prefixes and um yeah....there are over 2000 combos...lol. So I am going to continue searching for the middle number identifying the GSR/B16. I have confirmed the AUTO LS gear tooth count already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKOBD View Post
    Yeah, that is the part number for the ECU. I have a couple of those at my house as well as a couple B16 autos too. The problem is that I need the mission assembly part numbers. The auto LS part number for OBD2b is 20021-PGA-A10. I know the 20021 prefix is for automatic transmissions. Just as the 20011- prefix is for manual transmissions. 37820 is the prefix for ecus., etc.

    So I searched through the 20021 prefixes and um yeah....there are over 2000 combos...lol. So I am going to continue searching for the middle number identifying the GSR/B16. I have confirmed the AUTO LS gear tooth count already.
    lol back to the drawing board for me.


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    Somebody knows...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyD1919 View Post
    Somebody knows...
    im sure somebody does. it would be nice if they speak up. i cant find shit. ive been searching for a few days now and im about to give the hell up.


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    I didn't forget about this. In the process of moving. I have the drawings and part numbers and can confirm that there are in fact differences between the SI-V and SIRG models. I have confirmed though that there are many instances when the LS gearing is in the SIRG line up (same part nos). I am still working on it, but have tooth counts, etc. Many different configurations to go through and my Japanese sucks..lol
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    lemme get one of your auto p72 ecu's
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    from what most forums say the GSR and LS is pretty much the same, it would be pointless to do. but i put a b16 in after my ls blew and it was alot stronger! but no worries anymore 5 speed tranny FTMFW!

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    ok thanks?

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    Just get a level 10 and call it a day. LOL

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    I had problems with level 10 in the past with a 3rd gen RX7... Might go that route but really don't want 2..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyD1919 View Post
    I had problems with level 10 in the past with a 3rd gen RX7... Might go that route but really don't want 2..
    JDMJAYDC2 has one in his intergra and it been going strong since the install.

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    ive had both and the auto gsr tranny really comes alive with a auto ecu some say its the same but i def felt the difference go figure. i have a custom ls ecu now with my level 10 so it shifts completely different depending on the throttle postion
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