Lowerings Springs Help
I have an 1996 S14 and i just bought
some SKUNK2 lowering springs
item number 519-07-1900 and i was
wondering if they will fit an S14 .
I checked with my friend and also skunk2.com
for specifications and the number was 519-07-1905
for an S14 so i was wondering if this will fit... and if
not how can i make it fit lol sounds funny....
thanks guys!
Slidin Sidewayz...
not to much info on my part but skunk2 says they are for a s13. i dont know if u can convert them.
is this steven?
after a little bit of research, i located this article.
this quote can be foundAlso, the ball joint is different. At first glance, the S13 and S14 ball joints look the same, and upon closer inspection, they still look the same. Don't be fooled. The S14 ball joint uses a slightly different taper. Although it will bolt together, using an S13 ball joint on the S14 spindle can lead to a very dangerous suspension failure. You must switch to an S14 ball joint. Nissan doesn't sell S14 ball joints separately from the lower control arm, and, of course, the S14 control arm is too long. Pressing the ball joint out of your S13 control arm and pressing in an aftermarket ball joint (we used Moog part number K9820) is the best solution.
HERE!
under 5-lug conversion.
hope it helps.
Last edited by Master Shake; 06-25-2009 at 09:05 AM.
What's any of that have to do with whether the spring will fit on the s14 shock or not? lol!Originally Posted by Master Shake
after a little bit of research, i located this article.
this quote can be found
HERE!
under 5-lug conversion.
hope it helps.
did you read the article?
it just clearly stated why the springs WOULD FIT, but would CAUSE PROBLEMS WHILE DRIVING. you would have to completely convert the entire suspension (s14 to s13) to get it to work like it is suppose to. check the edit on the previous post.
My advice is call Skunk2 and ask for the dimensions of both the S13 and S14 part numbers. That will tell you instantly if they are compatible. Ask for the inside diameter and the overall height and see how they compare. Simple as that.
I have now read the article twice and that is the second time I've wasted my time. No where in the original post has anyone asked about a 5-lug conversion or putting s14 spindles on an S13.
It clearly states in his post, "i just bought some SKUNK2 lowering springs item number 519-07-1900 and i was wondering if they will fit an S14". SPRINGS: not spindles, not ball joints, not control arms, not hubs, not brakes, not seats, not headlights or bumpers or wings...just springs.
the ball joints and spindles are needed to put the springs onto the s14. meaning he would need to swap over the s13 LCA's and all that to use the springs he has.
do you get what i'm saying?
hahah yea how u konw?
Slidin Sidewayz...
i went on their website and read that too but hey lets see..thanks man
Slidin Sidewayz...
damn...after a little bit of research, i located this article.
this quote can be found
HERE!
under 5-lug conversion.
hope it helps.
Slidin Sidewayz...
THAnks alot guys.... no need to argue over anything....yeah im going to call skunk2 and see whats up and if not ill convert the whole thing.... doesnt anyone kno how much that'll be
Slidin Sidewayz...
Throw em on and see.Not that hard.
there isn't an arguement. just trying to give you in the info that you would need to convert your s14 suspension over to a s13 for the springs to work properly or it could cause failure and i'm pretty sure no one wants you to wreck. and i think he was thought i was trying to tell you to convert it over to 5-lug.
So you're saying that they don't both have macpherson struts on all 4 corners so there is no way to try to put an s13 spring on a s14 shock?
you can, and everything bolt up like its suppose to, but there is a high chance of suspension failure.
What is going to fail? Nothing would be changed. He's only asking about springs...the physical coils on top of the shocks which have NOTHING to do with the ball joints or swapping components like control arms or spindles or hubs.
and die?Throw em on and see.
Slidin Sidewayz...
Holy crap it's SPRINGS, just SPRINGS!
You can use anything that will fit between the perch and the shock mount....whether it be a 1950's triumph or Geo Metro or Land Rover Discovery springs. As long as it slides on to the shock and fits securely on the perch it can be used.
Last edited by speedminded; 06-25-2009 at 02:30 PM.
LMFAO BWUAHAHAHA AND DIE....WTF?
Nothing can break.
I wouldn't go that far. With their logic the dampener bolts might not be put back in lol!
the s14 LCA's are longer than the s13. the tapering of the ball joints are different between the 2 as well.
WTF does that have to do with SPRINGS? Ball joints and springs do not touch. They have nothing to do with each other. He is not swapping spindles. Your article warns about the dangers of swapping SPINDLES not SPRINGS.
LOL...I quit.
the springs will fit. it will ride all kinds of fucked up. car won't sit like its suppose to. so it would be best to swap everything over to the s13 so the car is riding like its suppose to. i mean, if he wants to ride around with fucked up suspension, then by all means, he can do it.
What are the dimensions of the skunk 2 springs for the S13 vs. the Skunk2 springs for the S14?
These are stock S13 springs:
These are stock s14 springs:
How are they so drastically different that S13 springs will do all you say to the S14 suspension?
My advice, if you have a 96 s14, buy parts for a 96 s14....it's that simple
its not just the springs, its the other components of the car, like the LCA's that are different and will cause problems. there could be a slight difference that will throw everything off.
and as i stated before, the springs will fit, but it will not ride like its suppose to.
These are S13 lowering springs from Tein:
These are the same springs mounted on stock S13 shocks/struts:
These are S14 lowering springs from Tein:
These are the same springs mounted on stock S14 shocks/struts:
Sooo what do springs have to do with Lower Control Arms now? The title of the thread is "Lowering Springs help".
The original posts says...
Where in any of that does it mention swapping anything but the springs? You don't even have to touch any of the other components other than pulling them down far enough to pull the strut out, swap the springs, remount the S14 strut. Done.
how many time do i have to say the springs will fit but it will not ride like it would if he just had the s14 springs instead of the s13?
the LCA's are part of the suspension right? and if the s14 LCA's are longer than the s13, would that not throw it off some?
The only two questions is will the bottom of the S13 springs sit securely on the S14 strut. From the pics I posted does not look like a problem. That's why the inside diameter is needed to compare the two. The other question is how much difference in height is the S13 lowering spring compared to the S14. It might be the exact same height or it might be a 1/2" difference. Instead of a different height it might be a slightly softer spring rate depending on the weight difference of the car and how the manufacturer spec'd the springs. It might be the exact same all around. Won't know until someone gets the dimensions of the two.
The lower control arm doesn't matter one bit because he's not even touching them.
In this case putting lowering springs on ANY car will "mess with" the LCA...I don't get the reasoning behind why only S13 SPRINGS will mess with it...lol.
I change my coilovers between my S13 and my brother's S14 all the time. His drop it a little more (better brand of coilover), for shows and what not. They're the same, just slightly different spring rates as the S14 is a bit heavier.
You won't die. It's always done.
I'll be glad when summer is over and all the know-it-all teenagers have to go back to freshman year of high school and not get on IA spreading erroneous information.
lol.
i'm out of college. not a teenager. and i'm posting info after i search the web.
and you want to talk that shit about me going back to high school, it seems i'm a little older than you are.
Wow....the ignorance in this thread is unbelievable....
FUCK GRAN TURISMO EAST!! NEVER TAKE YOUR CAR THERE, ESPECIALLY NOT FOR AN ALIGNMENT!! TERRIBLE BUSINESS!!
x2 lol
wow...i was just kidding about the die part but hey smartasses shouldnt be in this thread...i was just wondering if i could put s13 springs in an s14 thats all...yeah thnks to all the useful information but come on guys dont bring that in here....i deeply appreciate all the help
Slidin Sidewayz...
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