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    Default JDM ITR CAMS on a stock B17A1 head???

    K guys i need a lil help here. Reps will b given. So i just picked up some JDM 98 spec ITR cams from a buddy of mine. My question is what is needed so that these cams will run smoothly and function without a problem??

    Will i need to get some ITR dual valve springs and retainers or will these be able to just be dropped in without having to modify my head???

    Ive been told that i can run these on my motor straight up as long as i dont rev the fu.ck out of my motor. But i doubt this advice, that is why i ask you guys to help me out here!!!

    Just lmk what parts i need and any recommended brands that i can use so that my motor will run healthy, LAST and still haul ass!!! Thanx PPL!!!
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    u can run them on a stock b16 b17 head just dont over rev the bitch.


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    Get ITR Valve springs ASAP !!!!!



    I will not use these cams AT ALL unless you replace the springs atleast ITR ones or better!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech5
    Get ITR Valve springs ASAP !!!!!



    I will not use these cams AT ALL unless you replace the springs atleast ITR ones or better!!!!!!!!
    ive heard and done otherwise and been fine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by no mo hondas
    ive heard and done otherwise and been fine.
    +1 same here! your good to GO partna!
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    Quote Originally Posted by no mo hondas
    ive heard and done otherwise and been fine.
    you would use stock b16 vavle springs but you want re use headbolts??


    Most kids that does something like this cant help themself but think they can rev the shit out of them... If his stock valve spring breaks his HEAD Is DONE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech5
    you would use stock b16 vavle springs but you want re use headbolts??


    Most kids that does something like this cant help themself but think they can rev the shit out of them... If his stock valve spring breaks his HEAD Is DONE!
    sounds crazy but yup


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech5
    you would use stock b16 vavle springs but you want re use headbolts??


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    its a NoNo until you get ITR dual valve springs and retainers, or something equal or more

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    hmm, below are the part numbers for the valve springs - just referenced in the IBP of the 98-GSR and 98 Type R.

    GSR inner - 14751-P72-003 blue
    outer - 14761-P72-003 blue

    TypeR inner - 14751-P72-003 blue
    outer - 14761-P72-003 blue

    kinda weird how the numbers match. My money says he'll be fine running these cams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by se7en
    hmm, below are the part numbers for the valve springs - just referenced in the IBP of the 98-GSR and 98 Type R.

    GSR inner - 14751-P72-003 blue
    outer - 14761-P72-003 blue

    TypeR inner - 14751-P72-003 blue
    outer - 14761-P72-003 blue

    kinda weird how the numbers match. My money says he'll be fine running these cams.
    -jonathan
    So yes he needs to change them....Good try though




    He has the OLD b17 motor NOT the B18c

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    hmm, that's what i get for reading too fast.

    regardless, like nomohondas said, as long as he doesn't exceed the stock redline it'll be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by se7en
    hmm, that's what i get for reading too fast.

    regardless, like nomohondas said, as long as he doesn't exceed the stock redline it'll be fine.

    -jonathan

    but c'mon now, lets be real. if you had a stock b17 and had some JDM ITR cams in it, and knew that it pull hard up till about 9k rpm... wouldnt you be tempted to hit it that far? lols

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1siccEJ2
    but c'mon now, lets be real. if you had a stock b17 and had some JDM ITR cams in it, and knew that it pull hard up till about 9k rpm... wouldnt you be tempted to hit it that far? lols
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    upgrade that valvetrain son, so you can't say 'naw man i can't rev, ill screw up my head'



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    Quote Originally Posted by 1siccEJ2
    but c'mon now, lets be real. if you had a stock b17 and had some JDM ITR cams in it, and knew that it pull hard up till about 9k rpm... wouldnt you be tempted to hit it that far? lols
    maybe, except that fuel cut on a b17 is 8200. It's like having an lsvtec with a stock LS bottom end... it's called self control and not exceeding your engines limits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by se7en
    maybe, except that fuel cut on a P61 ecu is 8200. It's like having an lsvtec with a stock LS bottom end... it's called self control and not exceeding your engines limits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1SOL2NV
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    ....which is the stock ecu for that engine, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by se7en
    maybe, except that fuel cut on a b17 is 8200. It's like having an lsvtec with a stock LS bottom end... it's called self control and not exceeding your engines limits.

    -jonathan
    thats it right there.


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    very true richard...yea i doubt ill stop at 8!!! last b17 i had was always taken to atleast 8500..lol!!! most likely im going to upgrade the valvetrain with either ITR parts or aftermarket parts. o and if you happen to know anyone who has what i need, let me know asap!!! thanx for the comments ppl!
    Quote Originally Posted by 1siccEJ2
    but c'mon now, lets be real. if you had a stock b17 and had some JDM ITR cams in it, and knew that it pull hard up till about 9k rpm... wouldnt you be tempted to hit it that far? lols
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    im running 98 spec itr cams in my b17a1 swap and they do great with stock valvetraIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i love em ...

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    Don't be stupid get the valves springs an stop being a cheap skate!!!


    Most kids cars that is mildly worked on I don't ever buy there cars because I know something they have done HALF ASS!

    Or fuked something up because they Dont have a clue what they are doing!!

    and think they know it all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech5
    Don't be stupid get the valves springs an stop being a cheap skate!!!


    Most kids cars that is mildly worked on I don't ever buy there cars because I know something they have done HALF ASS!

    Or fuked something up because they Dont have a clue what they are doing!!

    and think they know it all!
    if my head wasnt recently rebuilt i wouldnt try putting the cams in ..... but mine was rebuilt wit oem stuff .. but no dual valve springs .. just good oem new stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1SOL2NV
    if my head wasnt recently rebuilt i wouldnt try putting the cams in ..... but mine was rebuilt wit oem stuff .. but no dual valve springs .. just good oem new stuff
    Your still pushing your luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech5
    Your still pushing your luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by se7en
    Tech 5 is teh jeenyuz of awl tymez fo reelz ma nigguz.

    -jonathan
    hahahahhaa.....



    Hey just because my car is LOW of oil but running fine doesnt mean not to add oil!

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    yea i know wat to do. i was going to upgrade the valve train anyways just wanted to ask for some feed back. anyways im not a cheap skate and im sure i will spend the best that money can buy on this set up. thanx again people! o and if anyone has any parts that i may need, plz dont hesitate to PM!!!
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