cutting springs

[Thighs]

heating the spring changes the spring rate giving it a different ride (bouncy) cutting it (if you dont cut the spring in half) will only change the height and do nothing to the way it rides dont believe me cut one and heat one. i bet you will want to replace the one you heated first. just my

FALSE.

and doesnt bouncy mean stiffer? i mean, bouncing isnt usually something associated with softer springs. if you put stiffer springs on a stock shock/strut, it bounces because the shock isnt strong enough to keep up with the springs resistance to compression, and it bounces.

why are you getting all butthurt? im just stating facts.

[quickdodge®]

im just stating facts.

I don't know about all that. Also, I'll take my experiences over someone almost half my age. See I started lowering cars literally before you were born, lolol. I lowered my first car (1980 Datsun 210 SW) in May of 1987. I cut the springs. Took them out and used a zizz wheel on them. At the time, I didn't know about much heating springs. I got a hold of a 1990 Geo Prizm a year and a half later and learned how to heat. I was in love. The ride was so much nicer. Bouncy does mean stiffer, you are right about that. But stiffer isn't always better. Not this kind. I've had close to 20 cars since then and lowered EVERY single one of them by way of heating. I've lowered countless other people's cars the same way. The Neon I had that I won the ATL SCCA class championship in rode on heated springs. Hail, my 79 CVCC is lowered via heated springs. Out of every car I've had (been involved with) over these last 21 years, I've had only ZERO suspension related problems with them.

The only reason why I don't cut springs is because of ride quality.

But I still say that if you can afford to do it right, by all means do it right. I'm old school and I do things with old school "technology." Back in those days, that's how we lowered cars. This was back before after market springs were being made.

Hope that helps on what I see/know. Without trying to "start something" with you. Later, QD.

[Elbow]

I don't know about all that. Also, I'll take my experiences over someone almost half my age. See I started lowering cars literally before you were born, lolol. I lowered my first car (1980 Datsun 210 SW) in May of 1987. I cut the springs. Took them out and used a zizz wheel on them. At the time, I didn't know about much heating springs. I got a hold of a 1990 Geo Prizm a year and a half later and learned how to heat. I was in love. The ride was so much nicer. Bouncy does mean stiffer, you are right about that. But stiffer isn't always better. Not this kind. I've had close to 20 cars since then and lowered EVERY single one of them by way of heating. I've lowered countless other people's cars the same way. The Neon I had that I won the ATL SCCA class championship in rode on heated springs. Hail, my 79 CVCC is lowered via heated springs. Out of every car I've had (been involved with) over these last 21 years, I've had only ZERO suspension related problems with them.

The only reason why I don't cut springs is because of ride quality.

But I still say that if you can afford to do it right, by all means do it right. I'm old school and I do things with old school "technology." Back in those days, that's how we lowered cars. This was back before after market springs were being made.

Hope that helps on what I see/know. Without trying to "start something" with you. Later, QD.

For RIDE QUALITY heated MIGHT be better, but it's a lot more dangerous, and will handle like shit because there is almost no REAL way to measure each rate. I had cut springs on my 240, that I spent like a weekend cutting, measuring, etc in a friends shop, it handeled better overall, and was bouncy sure, but just as bouncy as another friends 240 with coilovers lowered the same amount.

But then again why would you lower a car if you aren't doing it for a performance advantage in some sort?

Not bashing you or anything QD, but in my much higher experience in motorsport then you, and even Thighs as I am sure he knows quite a bit and learns quite a bit all around where he works, I am sticking with cut springs being the better ghetto fab way overall.