cutting springs

[Barefoot]

if your going to cheap out dont cut or heat ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-94...Q5fAccessories

lol

[4drlschick]

everyones right they sell cheap coilovers on ebay that ride rough but they would be a lot better on your car than cutting or heating in my opinion. i have a lude out front that we had heated the springs on for some reason and when we took the springs off they literally rolled around in circles they were so bent and broke my axles basically. just my experience.... go with the best way for you but beware that if its your dd you will have to replace a couple things atleast if you ride around for a while. and a camber kit is a must man or you got tires and all that to worry about too.
good luck with whatever decision you make.

[quickdodge®]

Wasn't able to respond because IA went down as I was actually typing my response. Lolol.

For RIDE QUALITY heated MIGHT be better, but it's a lot more dangerous, and will handle like shit

There is no MIGHT about it. The ride quality IS better. And not nearly as dangerous. And my Neon didn't seem to have any problems coasting to that easy champion spot on heated springs. See a cut spring will make a more stiff, bouncy ride. Would you like to be going through a curve and hit something that may cause you to start bouncing? I wouldn't. You lose all control and will start bouncing straight towards the outside of the curve.

But then again why would you lower a car if you aren't doing it for a performance advantage in some sort?

Oh my, my young little whippersnapper. Tis it to be a loss of experience to not live through a "modification's" history. Lowering cars wasn't always about performance. People were lowering cars, even long before I was born, for just looks.

Not bashing you or anything QD, but in my much higher experience in motorsport then you, and even Thighs as I am sure he knows quite a bit and learns quite a bit all around where he works,

No bash thought of, dude. This is just a discussion...it's all good. I don't doubt that you have more experience than me in motorsports (not that you trying to brag about it impressed me). I will still stick with actual 20 years hands-on experience over a few years of what you have. Later, QD.

[Elbow]

Technically I have 15 years of hands on experience

[quickdodge®]

Technically I have 15 years of hands on experience

Well then I could do the same thing and go on 35 years or so. But we both know that isn't right. Later, QD.

[SiRed94]

Just take the springs out, raise the car to where you want it, then weld the shock's piston rod to the cylinder and call it a day. It will be like a go-kart, but a little larger scale.

[rmeyer114]

dont reccommend cutting springs last owner on my 240 did it and it and the ride SUCKS

[§treet_§peed]

IMO listen to what QD and Simmontibett they know what they are talking about.. as far as what i would, i would buy a set of coilovers and not be a cheap ass and risk something happen that could harm others or you...

[Elbow]

Yeah really buy eBay coilovers it's like $40, and is easier to install.

[Thighs]

wow, nissantuner said something reasonably intelligent! im impressed.

anyways, QD has good points. heating WILL ride smoother, but on the other hand it CAN compromise the springs integrity and for an inexperienced mechanic, it most likely will not come out perfect. id say cut them. my bmw springs were cut by the P.O., who did a decent job. it sits pretty level and doesnt ride very harsh at all.

[Elbow]

^Truth, i've ridden in it and it looks good.

[Jimmy B]

Well, I cut the front springs in my suburban, i cut 3/4 of a coil off to drop the front about 1 more inch. I had already lowered it 4"... I cut, because I have seen heated springs colapase after some time, and if you want to cut aftermatrket springs, most of the time it will only be 1/2-1 coil and no more..

this is not the first time i cut springs, nor will it be the last, but i have rode in heated springs and hated it...

[AnthonyF]

I see a lot of debate in here about cutting and heating. Heating is better than cutting. PERIOD.

Buying the proper springs and suspension setup is better than everything. Get a nice set of coil overs with the proper springs and you will have a decent ride at whatever height you want.

-Ant.

[Elbow]

^No it's not. PERIOD. You know back in the day some race teams would cut a little off race springs and play with rates, why wouldn't they heat them?

[1moreaccord]

Cut is best

Seriously heat? think about the physics of that!

The springs are made of metal.. When you heat metal it goes thru physical change to a more malleable state (depending on temp of heat). That's why the springs "lower".. The metal material is expanding..

When metal is heated it expands and since the mass hasn't changed, then the density is changing.. The density of the metal becomes less..

When you heat springs you are changing the properties of the metal.. IT also becomes more brittle.. = BAD!

[antiv6]

For the record cutting is better. If the spring is not progressive cutting will not change the spring rate but if you have progressive springs and you cut them the rate will most definitely change. Most lowering springs are progressive.

[Thighs]

heating ftl. lol

[RL...]

DOESNT MATTER WHETHER CUTTING OR HEATING SPRINGS IS BETTER. WTF ppl.

Buy some damn springs off ebay for like $100. If you can't spare that much money then you shouldn't be modding cars....PERIOD

[Thighs]

DOESNT MATTER WHETHER CUTTING OR HEATING SPRINGS IS BETTER. WTF ppl.

Buy some damn springs off ebay for like $100. If you can't spare that much money then you shouldn't be modding cars....PERIOD

IMO, cut springs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheap springs. i have seen the rates on ebay springs vary as much as 65lbs, and these were all bought in ONE SET.

and a side note, if you cant pick a car thats not a mommy-mobile, you shouldnt be modding cars. dont you have some GTR pics to beat off to?

[RL...]

IMO, cut springs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheap springs. i have seen the rates on ebay springs vary as much as 65lbs, and these were all bought in ONE SET.

and a side note, if you cant pick a car thats not a mommy-mobile, you shouldnt be modding cars. dont you have some GTR pics to beat off to?

you're an idiot

[Elbow]

DOESNT MATTER WHETHER CUTTING OR HEATING SPRINGS IS BETTER. WTF ppl.

Buy some damn springs off ebay for like $100. If you can't spare that much money then you shouldn't be modding cars....PERIOD

You shouldn't be modding cars without the knowledge on how things work.

[RL...]

You shouldn't be modding cars without the knowledge on how things work.

That is an extremely stupid statement, and you have no facts to back up such a claim, so don't confuse yourself with me loser.

[Elbow]

Well, you are stating dumb opinions in here based off nothing, all your other post show stupidity, you told someone a special brand of an intake was junk, etc. You don't know much, if anything about cars, you are a new breed fanboy, aka F&F got you into it, maybe a magazine article about GTR, maybe a friend with a riced out car trying to pickup girls. Saying I don't know anything is dumb in its own way. I have built many more cars then you, all my jobs involved cars, and so on.

You are obviously a dumb ass, but let the smart people talk, go back outside and play with your fake HID's.

[RL...]

Well, you are stating dumb opinions in here based off nothing, all your other post show stupidity, you told someone a special brand of an intake was junk, etc. You don't know much, if anything about cars, you are a new breed fanboy, aka F&F got you into it, maybe a magazine article about GTR, maybe a friend with a riced out car trying to pickup girls. Saying I don't know anything is dumb in its own way. I have built many more cars then you, all my jobs involved cars, and so on.

You are obviously a dumb ass, but let the smart people talk, go back outside and play with your fake HID's.

First, you're a loser.

Second, you probably do know more about cars than me and blah blah blah. I don't know a lot, but my knowledge grows with each mod I do, and I've went from changing brakes to swapping out my suspension, etc..Nothing major, but things take time.....

And I told another maxima owner that an injen CAI for his car is juck, why did I say that? Because the so called injen cai sits directly behind the radiator and is in no way a cai for our cars, in fact he would lose a few hp from it.

And my opinion about cut springs isn't based on nothing, it's fact. It is better/safer to buy aftermarket springs than to cut/heat them. Anyone who does such a thing should be slapped, and ppl whouldn't take such half-assed spproaches to modding their cars. But hey, since you obviously approve of half assing cars, more power to you loser.

[Elbow]

First, you're a loser.

Second, you probably do know more about cars than me and blah blah blah. I don't know a lot, but my knowledge grows with each mod I do, and I've went from changing brakes to swapping out my suspension, etc..Nothing major, but things take time.....

And I told another maxima owner that an injen CAI for his car is juck, why did I say that? Because the so called injen cai sits directly behind the radiator and is in no way a cai for our cars, in fact he would lose a few hp from it.

And my opinion about cut springs isn't based on nothing, it's fact. It is better/safer to buy aftermarket springs than to cut/heat them. Anyone who does such a thing should be slapped, and ppl whouldn't take such half-assed spproaches to modding their cars. But hey, since you obviously approve of half assing cars, more power to you loser.

Did anyone in here say cutting or heating was BETTER then buying springs? Truth is though some cut springs, are equally just as good as some cheap springs. But like I said, buying some springs off eBay is also the much easier way out vs cutting or heating. Cool I didn't know that about the Injen CAI. I'm not going to cry and say you are wrong. You calling me a loser for....don't know what makes you seem like a complete dumb ass which everyone here already thinks you are.

[Thighs]

First, you're a loser.

Second, you probably do know more about cars than me and blah blah blah. I don't know a lot, but my knowledge grows with each mod I do, and I've went from changing brakes to swapping out my suspension, etc..Nothing major, but things take time.....

And I told another maxima owner that an injen CAI for his car is juck, why did I say that? Because the so called injen cai sits directly behind the radiator and is in no way a cai for our cars, in fact he would lose a few hp from it.

And my opinion about cut springs isn't based on nothing, it's fact. It is better/safer to buy aftermarket springs than to cut/heat them. Anyone who does such a thing should be slapped, and ppl whouldn't take such half-assed spproaches to modding their cars. But hey, since you obviously approve of half assing cars, more power to you loser.

1. stop saying "loser". you sound like a 5th grader.
2. there is NOTHING wrong with cut springs. there is nothing unsafe about cut springs. obviously, an aftermarket spring would be the best choice, but only from a QUALITY brand, such as eibach, tien, h&r, etc. honestly, ill keep my cut springs over a no-name ebay spring ANY day. if you knew how many competitive race cars have cut springs on them, you would be VERY surprised. you gained a littel respect admitting that you dont know much about cars, but this seems to be a topic you dont have much experience in to back up your comments.

now go fuck a GTR in the tailpipe.

[RL...]

you guys are funny

when I say springs from ebay I assumed name brand with it such tein or eibach, because I don't consider no name springs an option, maybe because I don't like to half ass my suspension? Much like how I bought my tein springs off of ebay.

But apparently I'm wrong, and everyone should cut their springs like race cars do.......

[Elbow]

you guys are funny

when I say springs from ebay I assumed name brand with it such tein or eibach, because I don't consider no name springs an option, maybe because I don't like to half ass my suspension? Much like how I bought my tein springs off of ebay.

But apparently I'm wrong, and everyone should cut their springs like race cars do.......

You sure they are real Tein springs? Because eBay is KING of selling fake Tein springs. BTW Tein isn't that great, especially their springs. I have them on my car, and HATEEE them.

[§treet_§peed]

IMO Skunk2 or Eibach if this is Honda

[Thighs]

explain how im an idiot? i mean, for a maxima, yours is pretty clean, and ill give you credit for that. but you have even said yourself on SEVERAL occasions that you dont know that much about cars. one of my good friends (who also drives a max...) has talked to you and he showed you his nismo "high-performance" grounding kit and you asked what it was and told him you didnt really know too much about the technical/mechanical side of cars.

and simon is correct. my facts are backing his statement up.

and as far as the comment about the mommy mobile and humping GTRs was all in good humor. its just teh internetz. if you cant take a joke you REALLY need to stay off IA.

[Elbow]

if you cant take a joke you REALLY need to stay off IA.

He failed at that quite a while ago

[RL...]

explain how im an idiot? i mean, for a maxima, yours is pretty clean, and ill give you credit for that. but you have even said yourself on SEVERAL occasions that you dont know that much about cars. one of my good friends (who also drives a max...) has talked to you and he showed you his nismo "high-performance" grounding kit and you asked what it was and told him you didnt really know too much about the technical/mechanical side of cars.

and simon is correct. my facts are backing his statement up.

and as far as the comment about the mommy mobile and humping GTRs was all in good humor. its just teh internetz. if you cant take a joke you REALLY need to stay off IA.

I don't know a lot about cars....and thanks

And about the idiot comment, it's all in good humor. its just teh internetz. if you cant take a joke you REALLY need to stay off IA.

[§treet_§peed]

how about you shut the fuck up before i ban you noobcake..

[§treet_§peed]

wow an intelligent post... im amazed and stunned

[benny.boom]

this thread is garbage...

[quickdodge®]

To the newcomers (not you Simon and Thighs....I'm talking to the newer folks in this and the proven moron) that say heating springs is the worst way out, you obviously haven't read my posts. And there is nothing you can TYPE that will override my 20+ years of ACTUAL EXPERIENCE. SO throw all the "facts" that you can "think" of and I'll keep getting my propane torches out. Later, QD.

[DC2NR]

Well if you are going to ghetto rig that car, you might as well just ride on nothing but shocks. lol

eBay ftw ........ well for you.

[VickNotic]

Well if you are going to ghetto rig that car, you might as well just ride on nothing but shocks. lol

eBay ftw ........ well for you.

+1

[Theycall_Metue]

go with smaller rims?