b16a2 into EG chassis question

[b16EG-HaTcH]

well i have a b16a2 swap that i have been getting ready to put into my hatch and of course as you know it is obd2 and the car is obd1. my question is what is required to wire it up and get it running. i have a civic EX (92-95) vtec wiring harness to use and i have cut the pigtails from the Si harness to use the Si injectors w/ the EX harness. i have talked to tom at Acura/Honda specialists, and he said some things that i have already forgot. i was gonna take it there but i dont have the $$$. i think i have to change a plug in the alternator and do something w/ the dizzy?? any help is greatly appreciated..... and thanks in advance.

[BTEC]

!st off are u using the p2t ecu or an obd1 ecu (p28, p30)? if ur using the obd1 ecu...

obd2 engine have the crank sensor on the oil pump. obd1 engines have the crank sensor in the dizzy. either use and obd1 dizzy or ull have wire in the crank sensor from the oil pump to the ecu.

u can just put obd1 injectors in or switch out ur injector plugs.

u got the alternator part down. use and obd1 alt or change the plug.

i think thats it i think. if im wrong, someone please correct me bc ive never physically did that swap yet.

[b16EG-HaTcH]

yea im using a p28, would i need an obd1 b16 dizzy???

[BTEC]

yea im using a p28, would i need an obd1 b16 dizzy???

b16 or gsr. U wont have to wire up the knock sensor bc p28's dnt have knock boards.

[slostang]

I'd use an obd1 b16 wiring harness, injectors, alternator, dizzy, and ecu.

[BTEC]

I'd use an obd1 b16 wiring harness, injectors, alternator, dizzy, and ecu.

yeah, me 2. lol!! especially if ur not good with wiring diagrams/electrical stuff.

[b16EG-HaTcH]

b16 or gsr. U wont have to wire up the knock sensor bc p28's dnt have knock boards.

so then using the p28 i can completely avoid that step b/c the knock sensor wont work w/ the obd1 e.c.u is that correct??

[BTEC]

so then using the p28 i can completely avoid that step b/c the knock sensor wont work w/ the obd1 e.c.u is that correct??

it wont work with the p28. it works with the p30 and p72. but yeah, u can skip that step.

[slostang]

yeah, me 2. lol!! especially if ur not good with wiring diagrams/electrical stuff.

IIRC if you use those obd1 components I listed you don't have to cut any wires really. should be "plug and play". I guess that term applies here. lol

[b16EG-HaTcH]

I'd use an obd1 b16 wiring harness, injectors, alternator, dizzy, and ecu.

find them for me and i will. i have also been told on clubeg6 that i could use and obd2 GSR harness and it would plug into the shock tower plugs and the motor. i have searched for all that stuff with no luck and i would wind up paying more for all that stuff than i did for the whole swap, and w/ a baby on the way spending a whole lot of $$$ is out of the question.

[BTEC]

IIRC if you use those obd1 components I listed you don't have to cut any wires really. should be "plug and play". I guess that term applies here. lol

pretty much. lol.

[BTEC]

find them for me and i will. i have also been told on clubeg6 that i could use and obd2 GSR harness and it would plug into the shock tower plugs and the motor. i have searched for all that stuff with no luck and i would wind up paying more for all that stuff than i did for the whole swap, and w/ a baby on the way spending a whole lot of $$$ is out of the question.

obd2 gsr harness means its wired for the external (outside the dizzy and on the oil pump) crank sensor. which means ud still have to do some pin swapping or wire jumping at the ecu.

[slostang]

find them for me and i will. i have also been told on clubeg6 that i could use and obd2 GSR harness and it would plug into the shock tower plugs and the motor. i have searched for all that stuff with no luck and i would wind up paying more for all that stuff than i did for the whole swap, and w/ a baby on the way spending a whole lot of $$$ is out of the question.

I thought you could use the obd1 harness from the eg delsol with the b16a3?

[b16EG-HaTcH]

and i did not say i am not good at wiring or couldnt read an electrical wiring diagram, i am simply askin b/c i forgot what tom told me and i have gotten a few diff. answers from diff ppl on diff parts of this swap and i am trying to clarify and make sure i dont do unnecessary steps.

[BTEC]

and i did not say i am not good at wiring or couldnt read an electrical wiring diagram, i am simply askin b/c i forgot what tom told me and i have gotten a few diff. answers from diff ppl on diff parts of this swap and i am trying to clarify and make sure i dont do unnecessary steps.

i wasnt saying you werent good at it bc i dnt know if u are or not. just saying IF you arent finding the obd1 stuff would benefit you.

[b16EG-HaTcH]

I thought you could use the obd1 harness from the eg delsol with the b16a3?

you probably could but unless you have one i had no luck finding one of those either.

[b16EG-HaTcH]

i wasnt saying you werent good at it bc i dnt know if u are or not. just saying IF you arent finding the obd1 stuff would benefit you.

sorry read it wrong i guess, but i have been ready to do this swap now for oalmost a year and have spent nearly that whole time looking for wiring harnesses and other obd1 parts.

[BTEC]

you probably could but unless you have one i had no luck finding one of those either.

make some wtb threads and see what kinda prices you get. or have u done that already?

[slostang]

you probably could but unless you have one i had no luck finding one of those either.

damn. didn't thin b16 parts were that hard to find. pm jayL he did an LS swap to his eg delsol a while back. he can prolly give you better advice.

[b16EG-HaTcH]

make some wtb threads and see what kinda prices you get. or have u done that already?

LoL
yeah like twice in the last 3 months......and w/ no luck. thats the reason i just decided to go this route b/c i have almost everything i need to do it.

[BTEC]

LoL
yeah like twice in the last 3 months......and w/ no luck. thats the reason i just decided to go this route b/c i have almost everything i need to do it.

gotcha. well look around on honda tech bc they have good "how to" threads if u can find em. Search b4 u make a thread asking bc they can be some BIG A-holes on that site.

[b16EG-HaTcH]

^^^ thanks i will give that site a try.

[Tech5]

you use the harness that comes in your eg, wiring is super easy! I have a RYWIRE.com harness that is plug an play just have to do some pin in's at the ecu...Use a P28 they dont use a knock sensor, and you will need to get a OBD1 dizzy, Injectors are fine if you cut the plugs off the OBDII harness or use the SOHC OBDI injectors an you be fine, 94-01 DC mounts, an shift linkage,exhaust,etc...hope this helps ...I have done many many many many swaps so if you need anythng else lmk

[BTEC]

^^^ thanks i will give that site a try.

no problem. i gotta be up in a few hrs for my 14hr shift so i gotta go. lol!! good luck man.

[b16EG-HaTcH]

you have a PM^^

[b16EG-HaTcH]

no problem. i gotta be up in a few hrs for my 14hr shift so i gotta go. lol!! good luck man.

thanks and reps for all those who helped/

[slostang]

you use the harness that comes in your eg, wiring is super easy! I have a RYWIRE.com harness that is plug an play just have to do some pin in's at the ecu...Use a P28 they dont use a knock sensor, and you will need to get a OBD1 dizzy, Injectors are fine if you cut the plugs off the OBDII harness or use the SOHC OBDI injectors an you be fine, 94-01 DC mounts, an shift linkage,exhaust,etc...hope this helps ...I have done many many many many swaps so if you need anythng else lmk

god I was hoping you would chime in.

[Tech5]

Trying to get over a dayum Stomach Virus!!!!!!!

god I was hoping you would chime in.

[silversol]

just get a obd2 ls harness every thing will plug in and you will not need to get a new dizzy or cut and splice anything. then all you got to do is wire the 2 wires and the ground for vtec!

[b16EG-HaTcH]

slovic i will have to spread more rep before i can get you again apparently good sir....sorry