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    Jaime there is a guy in GA that sells this junk. Its called MAGDRIVE and they are located in Acwrth.

    YOUTUBE MAGDRIVE or MAG PRODRIVE an youll see a bunchof hilarious bulls.hit videos. Dude is redneck as hell, and his 'office" is a trailerpark.
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    That's true about Newton, but this is not creating hydrogen out of nothing though. It's merely using electrolysis, I think, to convert plain water into usable hydrogen, which is essentially how a hydrogen celled car works.

    From what I've read, the idea is that when you inject hydrogen gas....called Browns Gas or something like that....into the engine, it tricks the car into sending less regular fuel and the hydrogen (which is more efficient per volume) more than makes up for the missing amount of fuel. Kinda like trading gas for air per se. Atleast that's how I'm understanding it.

    One thing I did read was that on fuel injected engines you would need some type of special adapters for it to work properly and some companies claim that "cheapo" imitation kits don't include that part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    That's true about Newton, but this is not creating hydrogen out of nothing though. It's merely using electrolysis, I think, to convert plain water into usable hydrogen, which is essentially how a hydrogen celled car works.

    I'm not going to bother reading the thread, but this quote here is exactly the problem with the system.

    The theory is correct as in hydrogen will give you better mileage, BUT the amount of hydrogen that will be had given the power of ANY alternator out there today in modern cars does NOT have enough power to transform water to a considerable amount of hydrogen to make a difference. Yes it can transform a little, but not enough.

    Edit: I read some posts above and I agree with Kaiser.

    You have to think about what you're doing for a second. This concept has been proven to not work, everywhere.

    I will get some numbers in a second...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDCoconut
    I'm not going to bother reading the thread, but this quote here is exactly the problem with the system.

    The theory is correct as in hydrogen will give you better mileage, BUT the amount of hydrogen that will be had given the power of ANY alternator out there today in modern cars does NOT have enough power to transform water to a considerable amount of hydrogen to make a difference. Yes it can transform a little, but not enough.

    Edit: I read some posts above and I agree with Kaiser.

    You have to think about what you're doing for a second. This concept has been proven to not work, everywhere.

    I will get some numbers in a second...
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    The old joke "Hydrogen is the fuel of tomorrow -- and always will be" isn't keeping Mazda from jumping on the H2 bandwagon and stuffing a dual-fuel rotary under the hood of the next RX-8. They might even dub it the RX-9.

    Wankels are sweet engines that really scream at full throttle, but they get lousy fuel economy and aren't terribly green. In an effort to clean things up a bit, the next-gen production rotary reportedly will be based on the hydrogen/gasoline engine in the RX-8 Hydrogen RE (pictured).

    Just make sure you aren't trying to chase down that ZR-1 under hydrogen power.

    According to Auto Express, running on the most common element in the universe robs the car -- which gets 228 hp out of a 1.3-liter engine -- of 20 percent of its power, so Mazda's engineers envision owners opting for hydrogen (those who can find it, anyway) only during city driving.

    Mazda's been playing with hydrogen since 1991, when it unveiled the HR-X concept at the Tokyo Motor Show. It developed the RX-8 Hydrogen RE five years ago and started road-testing it in 2004. A trunk-mounted tank holds 74 liters of gaseous hydrogen at 5,000 PSI; a direct-injection system feeds it directly into the rotor housing. "Because existing parts and production facilities are used," Mazda says, "the innovative engine can be built at relatively little cost."

    But can it be sold at relatively little cost? We'll see in 2012.
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