i know that anything that i ever said wouldnt change your perception of the situation, but i saw it differently. i was at that car wash when he said to me "i'm going over to talk to him because there is no need for this." so he walked away from me, towards you, and you turned and walked the other direction. now, granted, maybe the way i saw things was just due to timing and not a reaction on your part, so i cannot say definitively what the situation was on either person's side, just what i saw. if you want my honest opinion, i think that it should be let to die, and i am pretty sad that you feel as though your feelings on one person are a reflection on many of us whom you do not know. i wish it were better..... but please realize that although you are upset, you are still being somewhat closed minded about the attitudes and personalities of other members of SEU - many of whom have a lot to offer.