yeah.. wouldn't see you in a domestic.. stick to imports.. oh wait thats a mustang you drive????Originally Posted by TRYMY4.0
yeah.. wouldn't see you in a domestic.. stick to imports.. oh wait thats a mustang you drive????
Friend went to check it out and test drove it. He's a very well oriented track driver. And he said the 135i is very tossable and pleasing.
The option they looked at was loaded with premium & sport package, priced at 40K. Mind you that's MRSP.
To compare apple to apple, a used 04-05 M3, fully loaded, at Retail price would be MORE than 40K.
But then of course, no one would pay MRSP right?
Oh, let's not forget, the 4yrs maintenance cost for the used E46 M3 as well.
Unless it's your weekend/fun/social status car, I don't see the E46 M3 being the best car in overall category with the True Cost to Own taken into consideration compared to the 135i.
Amazing car but expensive to work on. But don't get the vert dude. They're really heavy and convertible E46 drivers have a reputation for being douche bags.
Just watch the heads in them because they had a recall in the early ones for I think burning up the valves. Parts are expensive but they're worth it. From a dig, they're not necessarily insane. Not really what it is built for. But, punch it in one of those from a roll even in stock form and I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Just get it checked out because a lot of them get ragged out. I am looking at selling my car for an 05 M3 ZCP (Competition Package). Would love to have ya as part of the Bimmer family though! Once you do it, you'll never go back.
Actually 2001 was the first year for the E46
im not going for a pure race car. I just want a nice clean quick car. thats all. not looking for 1000hp or the lightest car.
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1999 was the first year for E46's (323 & 328) but the E46 M3 (and 325 & 330) didn't come out until 2001.
Well, we're talking about M3s....
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Then why am I sitting here working for "the man"?
e46 is more than just M3s
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Apparently they were just talking about M3's and if I had read all their pointless & bickering posts I would have known that the quote, "Actually 2001 was the first year for the E46" was referring to not just any e46 but exclusively the M3
If you get one make sure you find one thats been well maintained. Ones that need valve adjustments, tires, brakes etc. can get expensive. (I know cost on rotors are around 230 a piece). Also one's typically can be way down on power that need this loving valve adjustment. Early models had an oil pump (I believe) re-call and that needs to be addressed right away if it hasn't been (most all have been). Vert's are slower but that would be my E46 of choice..just like Geordie's. So sexy... The Coupe's are phenominal out of the box road racing cars. You can throw on a set of pads and slicks and run low 1:40's on road A or run low 13's in the 1/4 mile (some have gotten into high 12's..I believe bokix did 13.0@107 stock). The aftermarket is huge..somet things are expensive and some arn't. A good set of headers, a proper intake and underdrive pullies plus a tune should yield you a good bump in power 270whp to 300+whp and up to 108-109 trap speeds. After that there's F.I. I'm sure you've seen the HPF kits makes bolt on 630whp on an all stock motor reliably...that shows how stout and strong the motors are and how long they will last in stock form. I.M.O a boosted vert would be sex.
AutoFab got 320+ whp out of one recently with a euro catless exhaust, piggyback tune, on pump gas...100% stock they are normally like you said, 270-290+.
bc the MAN is holding you down. But out of everyone on IA, you prob know the most about everything....or ur a good google searcher
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Yeah thats HiRide's car. Put down great numbers. I think Bokix is around 320whp tuned off spray..slightly less. He's headers/straight pipes only. I havn't had to many N/A E46 M3 number to look at other that ones at the track putting down 360-380 with cams. Most everyone advertising numbers is boosted but thats going to change as the years go by and companies like TRM get there hands on them for pure messing around with purposes.
Yeah I'm aware. You see my sig? I know the chassis codes for the cars, it just seemed completely irrelevent to bring up any other E46 because he is interested in the M3 vert.
I'm sure that's with race fuel too...with stock cams and tuned on 100+ octane I'm sure HiRide would be at 360+ whp.
some sick looking cars, let me know if u find one bc i'll take a good deal if u back out!
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Ill testify to this. If anyone knows M3s, its this guy. Ive never seen someone who is more obsessed with these cars. Thus, if I have a question about M3s or just BMW in general, I ask him.
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Hah, thanks bud! That earns some of my all powerful like half a point rep. Haha
But, anyways any updates on the search for the Vert? Give us some details on the car you're interested in I'm curious. Thanks!
321 Jason!!! Get it right!!(and we have some interesting plans to make even more NA power soon before I find a way to make more money and custom build manifolds for a turbo. I should just save up and do it all at once but I do want to see what I can get out of this NA without nitrous.)
stock should be around 280 or so depending on dyno.
yes its making some great power and is still running smooth!
also, just a note. the recall was not for the head or valve train but for spinning bearings. some company that BMW outsourced a batch of bearings to, f'd up and got the spec wrong which lead to alot of pre 10K mile thrown rods.
but at this point they have all had recalls done (01-02, maybe a few early 03's) and then received an extended 100K/6 year warranty which will is either 100k miles total, or 6 years from original sale date.
with M3 prices lately I would say look for a late model 03 with the LED tails or newer if you can afford it. The 03 and 02 models will be selling like hotcakes soon as they are at the 5 year old mark. To be perfectly honest there are some really crazy deals on M3's which I am not going to pay carfax to check just out of curiousity but if these cars have clean titles and no accidents, the prices are amazing.
you just have to find the car thats right for you and be patient. It took me 6 months of constant searching to find my M3 and I actually widened my search to include different body and interior colors, but I found what I wanted and I paid for it.
My theory when it comes to buying used, either dealership/cpo or someone with tons of paperwork. when I bought my M it came with a notebook of all the services as well as aftermarket parts added AND removed. I felt safe buying this car and 2 years later and after driving the piss out of it, its doing great!
Good Luck with your search!
I just skipped to the last page but i totally agree w/hi ride... Just be patient in your search and find exactly what you want because its out there. I searched for over a year just for and e36 and it eventually came around.
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