i have a d16 also ... and i know im slow cuz my car wieghs alot .. but i would say a respectable street car should run 12's or higher .. but not everyone is into "BALLS TO THE WALL " on the street .... but love it when track time comes ... but not with a N/a D16z6 in a heavy sol ... but i love my car and its a shame to see such a great car in (Some ) careless owners hands .